Is Daytrading difficult or impossible ?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by speedo, May 12, 2017.

  1. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    Most successful traders, trade time frames suitable to their personalities. Skill required for day trading while translatable, is different than swing trading eg quick decision making, pattern recognition etc.. If you are a trader with no patience you'll drive yourself bonkers and perhaps into bankruptcy trying to swing.
     
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    #101     May 16, 2017
  2. lovethetrade

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    Isn't that what alerts are for? Swing traders are usually watching a dozen instruments which keeps them fairly busy.
     
    #102     May 16, 2017
  3. Those are vital, indeed....quick decision making, but also calm and thoughtful pattern recognition.
    You need to sense around where those support/resistance levels will be at. And be prepared to be wrong, or adjust to the market's mood or personality.
    Day trading, or timing the market's daily movement, is extremely tough...I mainly think of these two rare successful Japanese traders CIS and BNF.

    You have economic reports consideration, previous close price, premarket activity, Asia and Europe's performance, all intertwined in a big ass shit cocktail to consider where those support/resistance levels will be or play out at.

    "In a typical six-month period more than 80 percent of day traders lost money, and only 1 percent of them could be called predictably profitable."
    http://www.investopedia.com/articles/active-trading/053115/average-rate-return-day-traders.asp

    Day trading is tough, but not impossible.
    You definitely need the right skill set, and personality and traits for it...I kind of like to think of Neo in The Matrix 1999 movie.
    Excellent movie, by the way -- everyone should watch it o_O Only the first/original Matrix is epic, the rest are blah.
     
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    #103     May 16, 2017
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  4. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    No. An impatient person will not have the patience to wait on an alert.
     
    #104     May 16, 2017
  5. lovethetrade

    lovethetrade Guest

    An impatient person is busy with a dozen other instruments, some of which positions are held, is browsing the web, doing research, posting in forums, chatting, eating meals, having a coffee, watching a news source etc while waiting for that next alert.
     
    #105     May 16, 2017
  6. dealmaker

    dealmaker

    A successful trader is driven by process and thus have simplified things ( KISS) and has plenty of time regardless of being a day, swing or position trader. What you are describing screams, new trader.
     
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    #106     May 16, 2017
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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Most of the swing traders I've met...they put a little more emphasis on economic issues, political issues, market tendencies, FED/IMF/ECB decisions. Day traders in comparison...tend to use such less than the swing traders.

    There's also that psychology side of things. Day traders tend to put more emphasis on the psychological (mental game) than swing traders.

    In fact, I've seen swing traders here at ET say the reason why they're swing trading was because they weren't good with the mental game of day trading even though they were using the same trade strategy.
     
    #107     May 16, 2017
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  8. comagnum

    comagnum

    wrbtrader said:
    In fact, I've seen swing traders here at ET way the reason why they're swing trading was because they weren't good with the mental game of day trading

    Many swing traders emerged from day trading. I switched because I simply make a lot more $ as a swing although I put on a pure day trade every so often when the setup is right. A good swing trader has to be a good day trader to even get a trade off the ground since most of us don't take losers overnight. Us swing traders of futures & Fx are handling multiple positions (domestic & foreign) traded around the clock - often with a lot more capital to manage (many day traders lack the capital for going overnight). A seasoned winning trader of any discipline (DOM/arb/spread/options/trend/day/etc) has to have a great mental game. Most of your market wizards are swing traders - and they wrote the book on the mental game.
     
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    #108     May 16, 2017
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  9. algofy

    algofy

    agree
     
    #109     May 16, 2017
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  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Thanks for the post because I didn't think about it until your post reminded me whom I first started learning about the mental aspects of day trading...I first learned it from a swing trader that was a former successful day trader.
     
    #110     May 16, 2017
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