Is day trade options really viable?

Discussion in 'Options' started by 0008, Jan 16, 2003.

  1. almost an exercise in futility. with all the other viable trading strategies out there, it almost seems as if it would be a waste of time. Why not use a strategy where you start out with at least a 50/50 set of odds? you could use more expensive options that would move closer with the stock but then the leverage benefit that would apparently be provided through the use of options would now be offset by a higher premium. If the plans are to day trade, it seems you really cant beat using the underlying.
    #11     Jan 17, 2003
  2. cheeks


    Wide spreads. Quotes not honored. Autoex turned off. Busted trades. Crossed markets. Cancels that are not allowed.


    If I wanted that many problems in my daily life, I would be married.
    #12     Jan 17, 2003
  3. qdz2


    Agree. Most people are losing since their 50/50 odds are chopped to the losing side for many reasons.


    #13     Jan 17, 2003
  4. This is not accurate. You need generally about the 50 cent move of the underlying (in your favor) for the available Bid to reach the original Ask at which you bought it. But whether you trade 1 contract or 10 contracts makes no difference. If you buy 1 contract at $1.00 which you later sell for $1.10, you will make $10 minus commissions (total profit $8 on IB SMART orders). If you traded 10 contracts instead of 1, you would make $100 minus commissions ($80 profit on IB SMART order).
    #14     Jan 17, 2003
  5. svsv


    I have been trading options on stocks for a while. My result shows day trading is much harder than swing trades. Instead of having 10-20 trades per day, now I'm doing 5-10 trades a week while working on a full time job. Position size 1-5 contracts and use scale in/out.
    #15     Jan 17, 2003
  6. qdz2


    Some calculation not right? Double check please. $3.


    #16     Jan 17, 2003
  7. Dream on buddy, a 10 lot for a nickle nets 30 bucks at a dollar commission.
    #17     Jan 17, 2003
  8. Agree ...
    #18     Jan 17, 2003
  9. thank you...
    #19     Jan 17, 2003
  10. Thank you. I had my numbers mixed up, and I edited the post to fix them now. But my point was that your profit on 10 contracts is 10x your profit on 1 contract, on the same amount of movement of the underlying stock.
    #20     Jan 17, 2003