What are you guys the inquisition or something? Jem said: "Prove the non existence of God. use science to prove there was no creator of the big bang. That is just one example why I state science is not on the side of the atheist." I am talking about the creationism being taught through the religious texts. Why is it so difficult for you people to read? Are you always "reading through the lines" and "jumping the gun"? Do you all practice bibliomancy? Human evolution and the big bang theory(!) are not exactly linked through any proof of science... Jeez... (pun intended) You have no idea the logical mess and contradictions you are getting yourselves into.
No. There is free will but it won't override your karmic fate. Ever heard of an ambulance crashing and killing the injured patient attempted to be saved (or similar stories)? My notion does not elliminate free will but someone's fate (in trading and life) is predisposed. Some people should never trade as they are predisposed to be losers, no matter how many books they will read, their free will is essencially useless.
Force is an attribute of "the universe", which is fantasy. It is not an attribute of Reality, so force would be a "sin", yes. The illusion that is "the universe" can easily be shattered by the truth, did it wish to force itself upon the illusion. But the fact is, you are entitled to your fantasies of falsehood, as well as the truth of your freedom. Our Father pays no mind to this fantasy. Does not interfere...does not facilitate...does not acknowledge its existence. He does provide the ways and means to extract oneself from what boils down to a potential interuption to true communication [think: communion] between Father and Son, Source and Effect, Creator and Creation. Force implies that "the universe" exists. It does not, according to The Truth, which is in process of "saving" the mind that imagines "the universe" to be Reality. "The Truth" is the Ways and Means provided to restore communication [communion] between the mind of the Son, and the mind of the Father. The Truth does not command. It is a Voice, so-to-speak, that "speaks" to those "who have ears to hear". The Truth teaches only equals, teaching the equality of Reality. To command is to imply inequality. The fact is, the mind that makes man is equal to God. It is "saved" to the extent that it understands this. It cannot be taught as anything other than an equal. And an equal must volunteer his cooperation. But when it comes to the truth, he must volunteer his cooperation unequivocably. The ego depreciates the mind that makes man, reducing it to man, and everything else in "the universe". Jesus
Ok then I will ask you a direct and specific question, just to prove that evolution and science in general cant disprove anything even specifically ( i could use any religion, ANY religious theory, ANY god, but ill stick with the one we all know). How does evolution disprove creationism as it is told in the old testament?
If "karmic fate" overrides free will, then, effectively, free will is of no consequence. Therefore, why bother with any decision making whatsoever since, after all, everything has already been predetermined and decided?
See, you were talking about the origin of the universe, and trying to inject that into my arguments - but I was not falling for that blatant scum trick. You were not "simply stating my argument", but falsely/cowardly trying to inject something about the origin of the universe and pass it off as "my argument"... You have absolutely no idea how I think about the origin of the universe... THAT is what was worth ridiculing. Well, human and natural evolution shows us that we are related to other primates, as per carbon dated finds and DNA. Creationism say that everything was created over a short period of days. We know that in fact, we have been evolving for much longer and that humans as well as other species share a common(!) evolutionary path. That disproves creationism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_evolutionary_synthesis
Hehe, exactly the point I was coming to for him to get himself into a whole lot of philosophical trouble... Thanks for helping out.