Faith in truth is voluntary, yes. Meanwhile, faith in what is false will maintain one's experience in this rediculous parody of creation called "the universe"...entirely an effect of faith in what is false. [Think: King-sized faith] It may be painful, but it is not a punishment. Think of it as a priviledge...a gift to self...not given by our Father...because it is nothing. It is an unnatural use of mind-power to make fantasy seem real. "The universe" is a very insignificant idea that passed instantly in and out of the mind of Christ/Reality...a joke taken briefly seriously...like a drug that temporarily incapacitates the mind. Though not given by our Father, "the universe" can never be taken away from you, because you believe in it. Nothing the Son of God believes can be taken from him, so letting it go must be voluntary. "The universe" cannot kill the Son of God, although it seems to kill everything in it. It is faith in death that kills what can be killed: symbols. And it is faith in attack which sets everything in the universe at war with everything within it. All of this faith is voluntary, and can be withdrawn at anytime, though it seems involuntary, imposed, and sticky. At the time faith is withdrawn from unreality, the truth seems far off, distant, untrue, even insane. It cannot be seen with human eyes, and there is no evidence that it is there at all. Therefore, salvation asks that you place faith in the truth, regardless of evidence, because it is reasonable...and because you want it to be true! In this way, you turn the tables on the "laws" of mind which dominate "the universe" and which uphold it. When your faith is undivided, the "kingdom" will "come" to your awareness. Faith follows desire. If you are experiencing "the universe", it is because you wanted it. If you are experiencing truth, it is because you want it more than what is false. The good news is that, despite millions of years of desire for what is false, your desire for what is true is stronger, and unchangeable. The desire for what is false is changeable, like everything that is false. Jesus
wow I thought you were smarter than that. Prove the non existence of God. use science to prove there was no creator of the big bang. That is just one example why I state science is not on the side of the atheist. Do you want more?
That "Abraham is wrong, so God does not exist" is not at all what I am saying. I am saying that what is being believed and taught within Abrahamic religion about the creation of mankind is all false - as proven by science through evolution etc. I am not saying anything about a "finely tuned universe" and that other stuff about "divinity".
Ok so you do concede that there is no evidence against a supreme being? Good. Next, why exactly do you think evolution disproves anything? Your argument now is "Since evolution has been proved to be real, God cannot have created man". Is that what you are saying?
Where in the bible, talmud or koran does it say anything about the big bang, quantum mechanics or similar? I keep saying that creationism as being taught in Abrahamic religion has been proved wrong by science.
Read - my - lips ... I am saying that creationism - as being taught in Abrahamic religion has been disproved. Period. Please use your reading skills. This proof is of course to great help for atheists.
Since it is up to each and everyone to have faith or not, and it is voluntarily - as we now agree on... Is it right to force someone to accept a belief? Or would that be a serious sin?
OK so your case is that "since modern quantum mechanics wasn't mentioned in the bible, that particular God cannot have created man"? Hmmmmmmm...its getting thin...