Is Atheism a crutch for people who don’t understand the complexity of God?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by sho-tim, Sep 28, 2008.



  1. Hmm. Well considering the fact that no one in the history of the world has gotten anywhere regarding these questions (Socrates, Aristotle, Einstein) I would say its a safe bet that we will have a tough time too. But I suppose you are right, anything could happen, I don't know. Go ahead. Go searching for your answers, but chances are you will realize what everyone in history realizes...your attempts are feeble and we all know nothing.
     
    #91     Oct 1, 2008

  2. uhh. ok?
     
    #92     Oct 1, 2008
  3. This is a good point, and one reason why these arguments rarely go anywhere. It is very difficult to prove something does not exist. Impossible usually. Sasquatch, UFO's, or as I posed to TZ, prove the Tooth Fairy does not exist (that one really got him riled about my lack of intelligence).

    Point being, it is much easier to prove something does exist. Bring me a Sasquatch corpse, and I'll believe it. Absolute proof. Don't even need to say anything.

    This argument will rage till the end of time (or end of humans anyway). There is no way God will ever be disproved, although there is a ton of evidence against it unless one believes in the 13.5 billion year old universe, evolution AND God. Then its just a philosophical debate (why does God allow all the misery, etc.). I enter these debates knowing full well I won't change any minds. Its just fun in a warped way I suppose.

    Jayford
     
    #93     Oct 1, 2008
  4. stu

    stu

    Again, that's just you stating people got nowhere. 'There is far more understanding in heaven and earth than you may comprehend Horatio, Bro'
     
    #94     Oct 1, 2008
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    #95     Oct 1, 2008

  6. Right again. People could know the secrets of the universe and simply not be saying anything. Everyone could know but me.
     
    #96     Oct 1, 2008
  7. Shh!
     
    #97     Oct 1, 2008
  8. stu

    stu

    Then God is logically beyond the realm of logic, or It is logically not.
    Either way I would suggest at least that far, God does have to make sense.
     
    #98     Oct 1, 2008
  9. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) -
    log·ic
    –noun
    1. the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference


    Its probably not logical for something to be beyond logic, but who knows.
     
    #99     Oct 1, 2008
  10. stu

    stu

    It doesn't matter, that was not the point.

    You said…. "The nature of "God" is such that it is beyond the realm of logic."

    You now seem to be shifting away from that.
    Did you mean to say maybe or perhaps The nature of "God" is such that it is beyond the realm of logic?
    Just trying to get it clear

    If God is beyond the realm of logic, God is illogical. Then along with ‘makes no sense’ I think you also said, God would be irrelevant and pointless for the role of God too.

    Those don’t appear to be the attributes one might normally associate with a supreme being .
    Mealymouthed nonsenses like "beyond all understanding" render a supposedly all powerful being understandably pointless, if it can't be understood.
     
    #100     Oct 1, 2008