You MUST pay car insurance ONLY if you choose to drive a car. If you wish to walk, you are not required to purchase anything. So that comparison is irrelevant. You MUST pay SS because it is a TAX. A TAX is not a PURCHASE. Also irrelevant. You MUST pay to get a driver's license ONLY if you WISH to drive a CAR. Also irrelevant. What else ya got?
+1 TT. my income are capital gains only. i'm not paying any SS. i'm not forced by anyone to pay those taxes. at least not yet.
tsing --- so u want me to be your slave. u drive a car have your license. eat your good food. have gucci? why cant i? while i walk to work for $10 an hour... thank you massa. by the way i am a white, jewish, college educated male. so i am not talking about myself. i am talking for the people who cant talk. and i can see how discriminatory this is. u probably want flat tax too? tsing were you born into money? sleep on a nice bed? have video games? go to private school? if so i can see why u would think like that. but if u were born poor. where ur mother worked 2 jobs. ate frosted flakes. walked to school. maybe you would think different.
Born into money? Man, I wish I was. My parents divorced when I was 4 months old. I lived in a run down apartment that had more bugs than I could count. My mother worked two jobs to put food on the table. We had an old beat up mazda - some ugly green color. I paid for my OWN college education with student loans. I worked throughout college in night clubs and security details (my size allowed such) and I got my first job right out of college - as a plumber because I couldn't find a job in my field of study (finance). I cleaned shit drains and toilets, installed sinks, sump pumps, gas lines, that sorta thing for TWO YEARS until finally landing a job in my field of study. At that point I worked up the corporate ladder from a lowly analyst position until I became the finance director of a large multi national. I had to travel and live all over Europe and Latin America to get where I was. Some rotten places, let me tell you. I earned every cent I have. Earned. And now you want to come in and say a portion of what I worked hard for I have to give to someone else because they chose not to work as hard. What gives you the right to do that? Why should I listen to anything you have to say on the subject? Where does the government get the right to tell me what I have to purchase with my hard earned money that I already gave them their overpriced share of? And yes, I want a flat tax. Go ahead and make that poor argument against so I can expose you for the dirty socialist you are.
tsing - that is a nice story... and if true, i dont see why you would care to pay more and help people? if u grew up like that did u not want the help? there are good people like u who need help too. now i will give u ammo to respond.... i will tell you the reason. it is because you are brainwashed. i can tell u. u are not rich. rockafeller is rich or bush, or helmsley. because u have a million. or 10 or 100 does not make you rich. but they, the rich people, want you to think you are rich. you are like the house slaves. the rich people manipulate you to thinking you should not help your fellow man. no they are lazy. they are taking hand outs. so they can propagate the overall system of oppression. look at you. you were poor. u made it out and now u want to keep the poor down. think about it. it is sick.
chuckybrown is a liberal socialists. He or she has already attacked anyone against the GREAT OBAMACARE as a conservative and probably religious. See, this is what these vile liberals do...that make fun of faith, hard work and say we all need to help out the peeps who choose to be OWS slackers! I am getting damn tired of these drones yelling racism, class warfare to gather support/votes to run over this Country with liberal ideals. All liberals and socialists have failed in the history of mankind, but let's try this again. If odumbocare labeled liberalism as a mental disorder (which it is), then I may be for it
No, I never wanted nor asked for help from anyone. And no one ever gave me it. Therefore, why should I? People who want to succeed can - with effort and good work ethic. Are there exceptions? There always are. But by FAR the majority should get what they work for. Pardon me for saying so, but it certainly sounds like YOU are the brainwashed one. I cannot fathom how you can say I am brainwashed when I simply want what is rightfully earned by me. Fellow man. What a load of shit. I donate to one charity - St. Jude's. That's how I give back to mankind. But if you think I want to pay one wooden nickel to anyone not willing to work out of their situation, you're not a smart guy. Trying to keep the poor down? They have the same opportunities I did. Same. Actually, more. I never had half the safety nets they do today. We never were on welfare! I never took unemployment! My mother never used food stamps! I ate Salisbury Steak and Turkey Slices and Banquet Chicken that was 3 for a buck. I don't think I had a real steak until I was somewhere around 13.
yep. i have a mental disorder. i like to help people... i am crazy. but i am also lazy. so i dont help people myself. i need someone to help for me. thanks the government is here. so perfect. and of course i have no money. how can i help people with no money. so i will take money from those who make $200k a year (just like obama plans). yep. how did u make that 200k?? i try to make it. but wait i actually pay my people a real wage, and give them health insurance, and help them drive to work... oh now i m broke... so guess what the government will TAX. thats right MUTHER FUCKERS. TAX people who are too cheap to pay. I am a jew and i will say cheap. if capitalism is so good then why does apple hoard the money. FUCK APPLE. TAX the shit out of them. take the money away. they are too cheap to pay their slaves in china. and still want to charge $300 for an iphone. i need the government to stop them from being cheap. and all u conservatives want to screw it up. u want everyone to be poor. no health care. and walk to work. i will get robbed, and murdered. in that world. look at the big picture. cmon someone respond to this... and think before you respond. defend apple for having 100billion in reserves.
tsing --- i see where u are coming from. you are a house slave. i was just called a liberal socialist -- i agree... and u are a house slave. as long as you know. that is what you are... it is cool. u are a guy who made it!!! and i am happy for you. and now you are against people who also want to make. u will try to keep them down. or at the least you will be indifferent to them. that is fine. i dont know how old you are. where u live. or what you make. but cool. at leats i know where u stand. and u will be in denial if you think this is not what you are. be proud of it. own it. good for u.