Iron Condor

Discussion in 'Options' started by TradingPilot, May 18, 2007.

  1. MTE

    MTE

    Despite the volatility ICs have worked well for me over the past 9 months. I did have 3 down months, but I'm still in the positive.
     
    #21     Apr 18, 2008
  2. OC: thanks

    MTE: That's very encouraging. What do you trade - index or stocks? How did you manage during those losing months? If you are still in black, you must have managed the losses well. e.g. if you make 3-5% for the other months, and (I agree, not easy to do all the time) but you contain your losses in that range, you might be in a better postion at the end.

    do you follow R/S levles or go with set delta or a specific spread limit to manage the risk?

    (OC: I know this topic is beaten to death in your journal thread, but couldn't resist to ask here ... -:)
     
    #22     Apr 19, 2008
  3. Oh yes…four separate legs , each one with –exp , but put ‘em together and assign a mysterious name such a ICON CONDOR ( yeah baby !)…and voila…we have an income strategy.
     
    #23     Apr 19, 2008
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Come on IV, I know you took basic math in high school. When you multiply a negative times a negative, you get a positive number. We all know that. If you do it 4 times, you get to start a hedge fund! :)
     
    #24     Apr 19, 2008
  5. my bad...I was ADDING them all this time !
    :D
     
    #25     Apr 19, 2008
  6. Tums

    Tums

    if you can read these graphs, then condor is easy money for you.

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1153749">

    <img src="http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=1153753">
     
    #26     Apr 20, 2008
  7. tums, that's a lovely chart. What platform are you using to generate this.
     
    #27     Apr 20, 2008
  8. They work well when IV is declining or steady, or increases only slightly. Whether IV is high or low is irrelevant. They can do quite well in a high vol environment. If you wrote IC's in March when VIX was 26, you would have profited very handsomely. You have to adjust the width to account for higher IV.

    If you're blowing out when IV increases a few percentage points or the spot moves 5% against you, you're too aggressive.
     
    #28     Apr 20, 2008
  9. gkishot

    gkishot

    Is there any way to predict whether IV will remain steady or will rise sharply in the coming month? Isn't it what the charts above are doing?
    How much would 'increases slightly' be in terms of the percentage?
     
    #29     Apr 20, 2008
  10. Tums

    Tums

    that's from Optionetics Platinum.
     
    #30     Apr 20, 2008