iron condor

Discussion in 'Options' started by osho67, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Well, if you are not holding them over the weekend then you understand the advantage to IWM over RUT....parity!!!!!! Big advantage!
     
    #81     Feb 1, 2012
  2. daveyc

    daveyc

    maverick,
    this little back and forth is a bit much. i think spindr0 captures my whole point. please read that post.
     
    #82     Feb 1, 2012
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    So you acknowledge that the IWM options are better then the RUT?
     
    #83     Feb 1, 2012
  4. daveyc

    daveyc

    i prefer the rut options. there is no better or worse. trade what you are comfortable with obviously. hopefully we are clear.
     
    #84     Feb 1, 2012
  5. spindr0

    spindr0

    BUTTERFLY: Uses 3 strikes. All puts or all calls. Can also be viewed as 2 spreads.

    IRON BUTTERFLY: Four options at three strikes. (straddle in the middle). Wings on each side are OTM (strangle). Position can also be viewed as 2 verticals. Uses puts and/or calls.

    Risk graph is the same for both.

    Instead of getting caught up in terminology, for any strategy, look at the risk graph and see if it's acceptable. Terminology can confuse you. P&L won't.
     
    #85     Feb 1, 2012
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    For the record I'm trying to compare apples to apples. Let's not assume assignment since one can't get assigned in the RUT. I'm assuming one is going to close out their position either Thursday at the close for RUT or Friday at the close for IWM. Anything after that is a whole new position and can't be compared. I'm trying to keep this simple for Dave.

    And to sum up, the cost savings in the RUT on commissions is tiny compared to the additional risk. IWM over RUT is a no brainer.
     
    #86     Feb 1, 2012
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Right, I didn't mean better as in more profitable. I meant better as in less risk and less costly to close. The commissions saved is essentially a synthetic short put on disaster.

    I just honestly don't believe you are understanding the parity argument. So I went through the explanation so hopefully "others" who read this will understand it and act accordingly.
     
    #87     Feb 1, 2012
  8. daveyc

    daveyc

    maverick, save your condescending remarks for yourself. how old are you? you created a needless arguement out of this. why? ego? we know you cant get assigned on the rut options. AGAIN, reread spindr0 post, he captures and confirms my whole point!!
     
    #88     Feb 1, 2012
  9. daveyc

    daveyc

    again, i understand the parity, please stop this insanity. we are not communicating in a manner that is useful at this point. we misunderstood each other, so lets leave it at that.
     
    #89     Feb 1, 2012
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    No he didn't. By adding the extra assignment issue the whole argument changes. For the record, I'm not trying to be a dick and I'm not directing this at you. I worked at a prop firm for 7 years that traded options and very few guys understood this concept. I am going into detail here not out of ego, but to explain to others who are reading this thread and want to know why I would make the comment that IWM is much more preferable to RUT. Even you in your first post asked why I would possibly say that. It's perfectly obvious why someone would say that if they understand the parity argument. That's all I'm saying.

    This was your first question:

     
    #90     Feb 1, 2012