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# Iron Condor - Maximum loss

Discussion in 'Options' started by moolah, Oct 10, 2017.

1. ### moolah

I am new to this strategy and would like to know how maximum loss is calculated when a trade is initiated.

I do know maximum profit is the money you get if all four legs expire worthless / without being exercised.

2. ### JackRab

max value is the strike difference, so max loss is that minus the credit you received (if sold).

4. ### JackRab

wait... let me finish my sushi first

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5. ### JackRab

Okay.. say 100 straddle = 10 and the 95-105 strangle = 6... if you sell the IC, you receive 4.

This is your max gain with expiry at 100

Max loss is on or outside the strangle limits. So, expiry at 95 means the 100 put is 5, the rest of the legs = 0.
Expiry at 105 means the 100 call = 5 and the rest =.
Expiry <95 or >105 means that the max value stays 5... At 94: 100 put = 6 and 94 put = 1, value 5.. etc.

So total loss at max = 5-4(credit)=1

6. ### moolah

Hmm...so for an iron condor context, maximum loss is essentially when the market turns against me and either the 2 CALL legs or the 2 PUT legs get triggered?

7. ### ajacobson

European options the max loss is the width of the spread minus the credit. American can be a bit more tricky if there is a dividend involved. Most brokerage houses have quantitative iron condor finders. You might want to play with your brokers platform and see if you tee up an IC.
Both Schwab and TOS have finders. Schwab's is on StreetSmartEdge.

8. ### JackRab

Since you want the expiry to be at exactly the short straddle... anything away from that means less profit.

It's unlikely that the expiry is exactly on that strike... so probably at least 1 leg will be exercised/triggered. Max is indeed at or beyond the 2nd leg...