Iraq war is nearly over - turn on the oil and economic recovery

Discussion in 'Economics' started by wilburbear, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. The Iraq war has been a catastrophe on every level. Monetary, Militarily, Psychologically, Diplomatically, etc. add infinitum.

    The Bush administration and the congressional branch politicians and anybody who supported the illegal invasion of Iraq and/or support the illegal occupation have committed war crimes. Period.

    They may or may not have to answer in this world but they will in the next.

    People who believe in and think they follow the New Testament's laws and who supported either the illegal invasion or the illegal occupation are sadly mistaken and will be held highly accountable.

    I am a true conservative living in a country which has been taken over by radical ideologue theologian wing nuts. None of whom deserve any respect now or any mercy in the hereafter.

    and this is far from over as noted by one of Bush's TOP Former Iraq General's who is, among a whole bunch of other Military Leaders, saying this is a situation of endless futility.

    http://us.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/13/iraq.sanchez/index.html

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A former commander of coalition forces in Iraq issued a harsh assessment of U.S. management of the war, saying that American political leaders cost American lives on the battlefield with their "lust for power."

    Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, coalition commander in 2003 and 2004, called the Iraq war "a nightmare with no end in sight," for which he said the Bush administration, the State Department and Congress all share blame.

    Sanchez told a group of military reporters in Arlington, Virginia, on Friday that such dereliction of duty by a military officer would mean immediate dismissal or court martial, but the politicians have not been held accountable.

    He said the Iraq war plan from the start was "catastrophically flawed, unrealistically optimistic," and the administration has not provided the resources necessary for victory, which he said the military could never achieve on its own.

    Still, he said, the U.S. cannot pull out of Iraq without causing chaos that would have global implications.

    "After more than four years of fighting, America continues its desperate struggle in Iraq without any concerted effort to devise a strategy that will achieve victory in that war torn country or in the greater conflict against extremism," Sanchez said.

    Sanchez pointed to what he said was "neglect and incompetence at the National Security Council level" which has put the U.S. military into "an intractable situation" in Iraq.

    NSC spokeswoman Kate Starr issued a short response to Sanchez Friday evening:

    "We appreciate his service to the country. As General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker said, there's more work to be done but progress is being made in Iraq. And that's what we're focused on now."

    Sanchez, who retired in 2006, said it was his duty to obey orders and not object publicly when he was on active duty, but now that he is retired he has an obligation to speak out.

    "While the politicians espouse a rhetoric designed to preserve their reputations and their political power, our soldiers die," he said.

    The administration, he said, has ignored messages from field commanders that warned repeatedly that "our military alone could not achieve victory" without corresponding help from the State Department.

    "Our National leadership ignored the lessons of World War Two as we entered into this war and to this day continue to believe that victory can be achieved through the application of military power alone," he said.

    "From a catastrophically flawed, unrealistically optimistic war plan, to the administration's latest surge strategy, this administration has failed to employ and synchronize its political, economical and military power," he said.

    Sanchez said the current strategy, which included a "surge" of troops into Iraq, was "a desperate attempt by the administration that has not accepted the political and economic realities of this war and they have definitely not been able to communicate effectively that reality to the American people."

    "Too often, our politicians have been distracted and they have chosen loyalty to their political parties above loyalty to the Constitution because of their lust for power," he said.

    Congress, he said, has failed its job of oversight.

    "Who will demand accountability for the failure of our national political leadership involved in the management of this war," he said. "They have unquestionably been derelict in in the performance of their duty. In my profession, these types of leaders would be immediately relieved or court-martialed."

    Sanchez was pessimistic about the chances of victory in Iraq unless there is a major change in commitment.

    "Continued manipulations and adjustments to our military strategy will not achieve victory," he said. "The best we can do with this flawed approach is stave off defeat."

    "There is no question America is living a nightmare with no end in sight," he said.

    The nightmare will not end, he said, until the partisan struggle for power in Washington ends.

    "National efforts to date have been corrupted by partisan politics that have prevented us from devising an effective, executable and supportable strategies," he said. "At times, these partisan struggles have led us to political decisions that endangered the lives of our sons and daughters on the battlefield. The unmistakable message was that political power had greater priority than our national security objectives."

    "Overcoming this strategic failure is the first step toward achieving victory in Iraq," he said. "Without bipartisan cooperation, we are doomed to fail. There is nothing going on today in Washington that would give us hope.

    Retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, IRAQ coalition commander in 2003 and 2004
     
    #31     Oct 13, 2007
  2. Yes, it is.

    Welcome to America.
     
    #32     Oct 13, 2007
  3. At least you have enough integrity to change your story once it's pointed out that your original assertion is absurd.

    No one would argue that it is our job as traders to interpret macro events and attempt to position ourselves profitably, or that the war will at some point be in the rear view mirror, or that new events will need interpretation in the future. These are truisms, not opinions.

    Of course, that's not the same thing as saying 'The U.S. won the war in Iraq', which would be either deliberately misleading or indicative of an inability to think critically.
     
    #33     Oct 13, 2007
  4. The average Iraqi knows he is being bamboozled by the corrupt puppets propped up by the US. This plan will blow up into the face of americans in a big way, ala the Phallavi monarchy that was wiped out.
     
    #34     Oct 13, 2007
  5. #35     Oct 15, 2007
  6. DrEvil

    DrEvil

    Hey if the washingtonpost says it's over then it's definately over. Everyone knows their journalism is 100% objective, unbiased and based on real facts.

    On another note, the idea of Al Quaeda in Iraq is a joke. What your post should say (if it were anchored in reality) is "Large number of Iraqi resistance fighters killed by big U.S bombs ... it remains to be seen if further Iraqis will take up the cause and fight the invaders"
     
    #36     Oct 15, 2007
  7. #37     Oct 16, 2007
  8. DrEvil

    DrEvil


    This was always going to happen. No one likes being invaded. Mohammed is pissed. The american soldiers just blew up his mum, his little sister and his mosque and are syphoning the gas from his car. Is he going to just lay down and take it? History shows us that no, his is going to fight.
     
    #38     Oct 16, 2007
  9. JSSPMK

    JSSPMK

    Hang about, what about Iran? It ain't over till it's over.
     
    #39     Oct 16, 2007
  10. #40     Mar 30, 2008