Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Aristocrat, Jan 2, 2007.
Hitler did have jewish blood in him. He destroyed the village of Lenz in Austria which held his birth records and family lineage.
As far as the rest of the story I don't think so.
There is no basis in fact for the assertion that any of Hitler's direct
ancestors were Jewish.
It's well known who both of Hitler's parents were, but it is not known with
any certainty at all who his paternal grandfather was. His father was
In fact, Adolf Hitler was born 20 April 1889 in the town of Branau am
Inn, Austria, not in the town of Linz. His parents were Alois and Klara Hitler.
Linz did not `hold the birth records and family lineage.'
Alois Hitler, Hitler's father, was born June 7, 1837 to Maria Anna
Schicklgruber, in a tiny village called Strones, in the Waldviertel. This is
an area located just north of Wien. Maria Anna was unwed when she gave birth.
Her parents were both peasants. The name Shicklgruber indicates a rustic
ancestry and would have been a liability for an ambitious person such as Alois
later became, entering into the civil service.
The identity of the father of Alois Hitler is unknown. Maria Schicklgruber
took this with her to her grave in 1847. So it is simply not known for a
certainty who it was.
This lack of reliable information has led people to construct any number of
theories about Hitler's ancestry, including that he had Jewish blood.
What is known is that Alois was baptised Alois Shicklgruber in the village of
Doellersheim. The space for his father's name was left blank in the records,
and the priest wrote there `illegitimate.'
Five years later Maria Shicklgruber married Johann Georg Hiedler, whose
parents were farmers in the nearby village of Spital. Johann had moved in with
the Shicklgrubers after the birth of Alois. By the time Alois turned 10 years
old, his mother Maria had died, and he was sent to live in Spital with Johann
Georg's brother, Johann von Nepomuk. Alois then lived with von Nepomuk until
he joined the customs service in 1855, at the age of 18, still using the
family name Shicklgruber.
Alois was never made legitimate by Johann Georg and Maria.
Alois progressed reasonably well in the customs service, and he held posts in
various places across Austria, including the towns of Wels and Linz. By 1875
he held the post of inspector in Braunau, where he would eventually
marry Klara and father Adolf. Alois is also known to have fathered an
illegitimate child, and to have been married for a first time in 1873 to one
In 1876, about a year after arriving in Braunau, Alois began a legal process
to change his family name to that of his dead stepfather, Hiedler. He appeared
before the parish priest back in Doellersheim, which held the baptismal
records, and stated that his father had been Johann Georg, giving the false
impression that Johann Georg was still alive, and now had the wish to
legitimise him. In fact, Johann Georg had been dead for 19 years. But three of
the relatives came along with Alois, served as witnesses, and supported the
story. The priest accepted the story, the civil authorities acquiesced in the
decision of the church, and presto chango, Alois had a new and more
socially acceptable name. The name change was registered in Mistelbach,
January 7, 1877, and it may have been the clerk there who changed the spelling
of the name to Hitler, from Hiedler.
Now what of the theories of Alois Hitler's paternity?
Among historians, there are three major ones.
The first attributes Alois' paternity to Johann Georg, based on the fact that
Georg eventually moved in with and married Maria. Georg was the stepfather,
and he was eventually legally declared as the birth-father, but only long
after he had died. It is quite hard to understand, if Georg were actually the
father, why no effort was ever made either by him or by Maria to make this a
A second theory is that Alois' father was actually Johann von Nepomuk, who was
a married man, and that von Nepomuk prevailed upon his brother, to marry
Maria, and thus fulfilled an obligation he (von Nepomuk) supposedly felt, to
help Maria care for Alois. It seems unlikely on the face of it, that Johann
Georg would be willing to marry Maria in such a situation or that he would
agree to any such arrangement.
A third theory that was advanced is that Alois' father was actually one
This theory in modern times has been based on the fact that, after world
war II, the Nazi lawyer and war criminal Hans Frank, awaiting execution
for his role in the holocaust against Polish Jews, confessed to a priest, and
claimed that he had investigated the matter of Hitler's ancestry and
discovered that Leopold had actually fathered Alois while Maria Shicklgruber
was working as a maid in the Frankenberger household, in Graz.
Rumours that Hitler was Jewish had been very widely circulated by his
opponents from the time that he began his political activity in the early
1920s -- there is no surprise whatsoever in that, of course. The basis for
such claims at the time was simply the uncertainty about the paternal
The major problem with the theory is that there is simply no evidence that
Maria Shicklgruber ever lived or worked in Graz. Furthermore, the Jews had
been expelled en masse from Graz in the 1400's and were not allowed to return until the
1860's, so that it seems unlikely that the Frankenbergers could have been
living in Graz at the critical time period.
So while speculation is rife, there is, so far as I can see, no solid evidence
to be had on the question, and such evidence there is does not make a strong
case that Hitler had even one Jewish ancestor.
The whole story is poppycock from the beginning to the end. What else would
one expect from Ahmadinejad?
Hitler was Jewish on his fathers side, many Sephardi Jewish intellectuals have already commented on that aspect of Hitlers lineage. Yet another Ashkenazi Jew more interested in occult satanic shit who used Christianity to consolidate his hold onto power.
And speaking of satanic filth masquerading as a Christian leader:
Robertson predicts 'mass killing'
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - In what has become an annual tradition of prognostications, religious broadcaster Pat Robertson predicted Tuesday that a terrorist attack on the United States would result in "mass killing" late in 2007.
"I'm not necessarily saying it's going to be nuclear," he said during his news-and-talk television show "The 700 Club" on the Christian Broadcasting Network. "The Lord didn't say nuclear. But I do believe it will be something like that."
Robertson said God told him during a recent prayer retreat that major cities and possibly millions of people will be affected by the attack, which should take place sometime after September.
Someone ought to do the christian world a favor and shoot the dumb satanic bitch like the rabid dog it is. The other filth is Benny Hinn. Someone should stuff and mount that fake Christian. How a Ashkenazi Jew from Israel turned out to be a leading christian "healer" is beyond me. And so the destruction of Christianity continues from within.
<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FBtEBCba3DI"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FBtEBCba3DI" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>
No doubt that most of the Arab world, Hugo Chavez and his scum, and "South America" just eat this cannard up. I'm a little surprised to not have heard it from certain US academics (Zinn, Chomsky, etc) yet.
Separate names with a comma.