Iran Enriched Uranium, Now its the Isreali Response, will they or wont they?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by mahram, Apr 11, 2006.

How high would oil go if Isreal attacks

  1. 70-80

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    12.4%
  2. 80-90

    23 vote(s)
    23.7%
  3. 100-110

    33 vote(s)
    34.0%
  4. You dont even want to know? :P

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    29.9%
  1. wabrew

    wabrew

    Maybe all this religious stuff is actually making the Arabs crazy.

    Can anyone imagine the Lutherans and the Baptists going after each other the same way the Shias and the Sunnis do. Other than your immediate family and next door neighbors, does anyone even know who is Lutheran or Baptist?

    Crazy Arabs - yeah. That must be it. If that is it, then how in the hell do you deal with them on any playing field?

    I am not Arab or Jewish, so I do not question with any prior knowledge.

    1) Is it true that many Arabs live and work in Israel? (oops, I forgot, Arabs do not recognize Israel.) Does Israel have an economy that works?
    2) Do Arabs with proper papers go to and from Israel to work?
    3) Isn't it true that Israel recently ceeded Gaza back to the Arabs? Is so - why are the Arabs shelling Israel from Gaza? Don't they have enough to do in developing/growing the economy of Gaza?
    4) Do people who call themselves Palestinians have an economy? All we read about is the AID that they receive from everywhere so they can survive. Maybe if they spent time developing what they have and building on what they have, instead of trying to get rid of Isreal, they might be more able to live a life based on prosperity instead of poverty.

    * History has it that Muhammad, who was born in Mecca, was summoned by the angel Gabriel to recite 'to his fellow Meccans' the devine messages that he had been chosen to receive. I believe this is referred to as the "Night of power". He lived in Mecca from 610-622 and then moved to Medina from 622-632 after he was unsuccessfull in converting Meccans. In Medina he was responsible for attacking Meccan caravans and launched many campaings against the Muslims in Mecca. *

    * paraphrased from "A history of the modern middle east" by William L. Cleveland ISBN 0-8133-3489-6.

    In other words they have been fighting each other since the 600's.

    The only sane conclusion is that the Arabs really are crazy. Crazy with hate of Jews and the Jewish religion.
     
    #131     Apr 15, 2006
  2. 1000

    1000

    So can anyone dispute the fact that it is totally insane for Iran/Islamists to have any kind of nuclear capability?

    So can anyone dispute the fact that it is totally insane for anyone to even allow any of those Islamists to have any kind of WMD capability?
     
    #132     Apr 15, 2006
  3. By Thomas L. Friedman
    Friday, April 14, 2006

    Let's see, Israel withdraws from the Gaza Strip, the Palestinians have a chance, not perfect, not ideal, but the best chance ever to build something decent of their own, without any Israeli occupation army breathing down their necks, and what are they doing? Mostly fighting each other and lobbing Qassam rockets into Israel, prompting increasingly iron-fisted Israeli retaliations.
    Even the EU has decided to withhold aid money to the new Hamas-led Palestinian government, and when the Europeans get tough on the Palestinians, you know they really must be acting foolishly. The EU said it will not give the Hamas government direct aid or money for the salaries of Palestinian public employees as long as it refuses to abide by previous Palestinian decisions to recognize Israel and renounce violence.

    http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635199505,00.html
     
    #133     Apr 15, 2006
  4. nah... you've made yr point, muslims, islamists, arabs etc, all the same, they are all crazy... and its been like that since 600 as another learned poster has just explained to us... lets just bomb' em... :) reminds me of this joke, even my arab mates seem to find it funny but thats because they are crazy of course... anyway it goes sthg like this:

    Ahmed Hussein the ambassador of arabstan at the U.N. is chatting away with his US counterpart with whom he is quite friendly... at some point he asks: say Dick, my little one, Samir, he was asking me the other day, daddy how come there is no arab in Startrek?... i didn't know what to say, ah, boys, these days, you know how they are... Dick: well, Ahmed mate, just tell him the truth, thats because in the future, there are no arabs...
     
    #134     Apr 15, 2006
  5. toc

    toc

    Why are Iran's top leaders in politics and military suddenly shouting loud threats. It is the last ditch attempt to scare off the US. Iranians know that using any wmds will result in total destruction of their country so they have nothng else left than to shout loud. I think after Russia and China, Iran is the third nation on which US Military has done highest possible war games scenarios and when it starts, it would only be a cakewalk bombing runs at will. My sympathies with the Iranian leaders, they do not know what they are leading their country into. It is not too late, get in the right mind and become civilized.

    General says Iran’s military ready “to project its power”
    Sat. 15 Apr 2006
    Iran Focus

    Tehran, Iran, Apr. 15 – A top Iranian military commander said on Friday that the Islamic Republic’s Army and Revolutionary Guards “are today in a situation to make the Oppressor World [the United States and its allies] feel the great powers that are at Iran’s disposal”, the state-run news agency Mehr reported.

    Brigadier General Mohammad-Hossein Dadras, commander of the regular Iranian army’s ground forces, said Iran’s military has identified “the enemies’ weak spots” in the region and its missile capabilities would guarantee Iran’s “national interests”.

    “We have identified and studied the enemies’ strong and weak spots in the region regarding ground, sea, and air forces”, Dadras said at the Friday prayers ceremony in Tehran.

    “Today, we have in the country that which is adequate to face threats. Right now, we have that thing which, when required, will land on the enemy’s weak spot. The enemies know this”, Dadras said.

    “We do not need foreign support. We have an adequate missile capability which can guarantee our national interests”, he said.

    “Iran’s capability is such that no one dares to come near it. If they do they will return with no success”.

    Alluding to the border with Iraq and Afghanistan, the army chief said that Iran has six military divisions based at “strategic and operational points”.

    He described Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei as a “pillar of power of the Islamic Republic”.

    “We are very capable in dealing with the enemy in a military confrontation. We have never been so strong as we are today”, General Dadras told the Friday prayers congregation over a chorus of “Death to America”.
     
    #135     Apr 15, 2006
  6. 1000

    1000

    Both of the above suggest that the US, Brits, are not imperialists, because if they were, they would have conquered by now.

    Can anyone dispute the fact that it is liberation (facilitation to freedom) and not occupation?
     
    #136     Apr 15, 2006
  7. sure, same as israel... with the help of the US, they 'liberated' palestine, didn't they? as long as we agree that 'liberating' equates getting rid of the arabs muslims islamics dontbendoverbackwardstotheUSics... its just semantics innit?
     
    #137     Apr 16, 2006
  8. this one always makes me laugh :))) these guys dont seem to like u do they :))) i mean, u shld bomb them honestly, or at least sue them or sthg... after all the good america has done to the middle east, and to iran in particular, such ingratitude!!!
     
    #138     Apr 16, 2006
  9. Sure, the suez canal.
    Economic occupation/control, via corporate/national interests.

    Remarkable similiarities, cant deny that.
     
    #139     Apr 16, 2006
  10. 1000

    1000

    Cultural life > The revolution and the Republic > The Nasser regime
    At mid-century Egypt was ripe for revolution. Political groupings of both right and left pressed for radical alternatives. From an array of contenders for power, it was a movement of military conspirators—the Free Officers led by Col. Gamal Abdel Nasser—that toppled the monarchy in a coup in July 1952. In broad outline, the history of contemporary Egypt is the story of this…


    http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-22401

    It's up to every person to decide for themselves.
     
    #140     Apr 16, 2006