. nkny: I am worried about Pakistan, who said I wasn't... I just worry about Iran more. ****** February 6, 2006 SouthAmerica: Over the years I had the chance to meet a number of Iranians â and as far as I know Iran has a very highly educated population today, besides Iran is not a poor country and Iran has been a world power a long time ago - Iran belonged to the Persian empire you can read about it in the history books. I am sure the people from Iran will not allow the use of nuclear weapons unless it is a last resort to protect that country against any foreign attack. (Iran is not the dark-age country pictured on American television and Americans should not be afraid of Iran unless you are completely ignorant of the history and of todayâs Iran economic and intellectual capabilities.) The boogieman is not going to get you. The current Iran nuclear crisis is another crisis manufactured in Washington and nothing else. Donât worry about Iran â Iran will be fine with their nukes. But Pakistan is another storyâ¦. By the way, I donât have anything against Pakistan â but I can recognize when I see a real unstable situation â if you want a real nuclear threat then you might have one in Pakistan. .
Fearmongering back in vogue again in the US. Last time I checked it was the "Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. " Today people want to know the best way to invest in Communist China. And ya gotta love the articles proclaiming Communist China is destined to become an economic superpower. Communism and economic superpower in the same sentence, egad! Give it time, you'll all be embracing the middle east and the muslim culture.
SA why exactly do you say it's the Americans that are worried about Iran? Last time I checked it was pretty much the entire world that didn't want them to have nukes. Just goes to show you are nothing but a half truth hack of a writer. ****** February 6, 2006 SouthAmerica: Over the years I had the chance to meet a number of Iranians â and as far as I know Iran has a very highly educated population today, besides Iran is not a poor country and Iran has been a world power a long time ago - Iran belonged to the Persian empire you can read about it in the history books. I am sure the people from Iran will not allow the use of nuclear weapons unless it is a last resort to protect that country against any foreign attack. (Iran is not the dark-age country pictured on American television and Americans should not be afraid of Iran unless you are completely ignorant of the history and of todayâs Iran economic and intellectual capabilities.) The boogieman is not going to get you. The current Iran nuclear crisis is another crisis manufactured in Washington and nothing else. Donât worry about Iran â Iran will be fine with their nukes. But Pakistan is another storyâ¦. By the way, I donât have anything against Pakistan â but I can recognize when I see a real unstable situation â if you want a real nuclear threat then you might have one in Pakistan. . [/B][/QUOTE]
Communism sure was no threat that's for sure, well I guess if you were one of the hundred million people they killed it was but otherwise it's a fine idealogy. It's so great that they build walls around their countries to keep the population in not others out.
I guess you are not aware of the falling out between the USSR and China (because USSR had a complete tosser who could not write as a leader)? Something which forced China to cooperate with the Western world mentality and will lead them to a free regime in decades. Oh and that Communism not only lead to millions of dead (within their own countries) but also to Hitler (the failed Socialist revolution during which Hitler was imprisoned was sponsored by the Soviet Union).
"Give it time, you'll all be embracing the middle east and the muslim culture." Muslim culture is regressive not progressive. US has nothing against Muslims, it is their fanatic views and practices that offend others. Look at their reaction to Danish newspaper publishing photo on their prophet. Muslims are out in open roiting and causing disruption to economic daily processes which bring peace and prosperity to normal struggling people. The only thing US/West has to do is contain the Islamic nations and like Communism, the Islamic Fanaticism will soon implode and be destroyed. Communism survived for 70 years because it was atleast forward looking technological based system, no matter how stagnant or simple minded. Islamic fanatism is nothing but total mental regression and hate in evil forms. China is what a result of US investment in it. The day US pulls out China is nothing but a third world nation of people eating mostly rice for the one and half meals a day.
THE solution to the Islamic countries is very simple for me: Divorce the church and goverment like Europe did centuries ago.
You take one tenth of what was spent in Iraq - 40 billion - and put it up for a global, free energy x-prize. All of our energy problems would disappear in a year. In a fucking year. The fact is, this will never happen. Big oil/defense owns congress and the sitting Administration (and the former, and the one before that... ) Think about the implications of free energy: Tens of trillions in oil belonging to the worlds most profitable corporate empires VAPORIZING overnight. GONE. Tens of TRILLIONS in corporate assets, equipment and investor value gone in a day. Gone now is also Americas need for oil wars that serve the dual function of transferring hundreds of billions of tax payer monies to the defense industry. Think the defense industry wants free energy? Fuck no. If you subscribe to the finite theory of peak oil, oil rich states represent ground zero for every major armed conflict in the recent past and foreseeable future (see Iraq, Iraq, Afghanistan (caspian sea), Iran, Saudi Arabia etc). A hopelessly dependant oil economy is fucking bank for defense contractors. They LOVE it! It just means the US will be plunged into more war, which means pure cash for them. No oil need = no war = no money. What all this represents is the hijacking of US stewardship by the Anglo Saxon military-industrial establishment to: 1) create artificial scarcity by suppressing alternative energies from emerging. This ensures the dominance of oil as the worlds premiere energy source and the suppliers of it as masters of the universe for a very long time. With oil our 'only hope' 2) defense contractors are written blank checks by congress for providing the tools to wage war against the terrible bogeyman (read: oil sultans) who would only nuke us if they had the chance!!! Oh, and incidentally, they've also got trillions in oil, which is ironically the only self imposed economic currency our good trusty whores in congress have allowed us to use. So we better jump on the 'war on terror' bandwagon or we're slitting on own throats!! This whole cycle of power consolidation, leading to Congressional sanctioned scarcity (fucking whores), leading to war, and back again, can all be short circuited by free energy. Or something close to it. You put free energy into the equation and the Big Oil scumbags don't have a leg to stand on. Their vast empires are rendered desertified scrap yards overnight. With Westerns no longer needed to tacitly condone thinely veiled oil wars, and the entire Middle East - and its radical Islamic factions - having nothing to do with the oil except eat the shit, Islamic terrorism falls off and defense contractors have nobody to bomb. What happens next is a resurgence of middle America from the crushing fiscal burdons of spiraling energy costs and defense inspired, towering tax rates. Real power - the MONEY - returns from the hands of the controlling elite, to the hands of the many. When you take the fiscal burdon away from American public and releive them of their endless toil for meanial gain, their attention and their stamina will be reenergized and free to explore more enjoyable and productive pursuits - like cultivating a renewed interest in THEIR COUNTRY. This scares the shit out of every two bit congressional whore and industrial war monger out there. Make no mistake. A revitalized American middle class having the financial independance to get involved in their country represents a real and serious threat to the ruling political/industrial elite. This is why no real attempt by congress, or the President - or any other Governmental body - will ever be made to invest SUBSTANTIAL monies into alternative energies and once and for all develop a lasting counter to oil. They would be shot dead in their tracks. Assassinated. There is simply too much money in too few hands that have a overwhelming interest in seeing this nation hopelessly addicted to oil and, as a proxy, war. These same interests own the politicians and our so-called national 'leaders'. These people, 'our leaders', are nothing but whores. Bush or Cheney, or Clinton or Stumpy have no intention of doing sweet-fuck-all about our current energy crisis. They love it. It represents consolidation of power from the masses to the elite. From our checkbooks to theirs, we seal our fates everyday by every pump we squeeze and every lie we eat. Remember what Eisenhower said in his farewell address? " In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." Its already happened. They've taken over.
Achilles wrote: ...................................................................................... You take one tenth of what was spent in Iraq - 40 billion - and put it up for a global free energy x prize. All of our energy problems would disappear in a year. In a fucking year. The fact is, this will never happen. Big oil/defense owns congress and the sitting Administration (and the former, and the one before that... ) Think about the implications of free energy: Tens of trillions in oil belonging to the worlds most profitable corporate empires VAPORIZE overnight. GONE. Tens of TRILLIONS in corporate assets, equipment and investor value gone in a day. Gone now is also Americas need for oil war that serve the dual function of transferring hundreds of billions of tax payer monies to the defense industry. Think the defense industry wants free energy? Fuck no. If you subscribe to the finite theory of peak oil, oil rich states represent ground zero for every major armed conflict in the recent past and foreseeable future (see Iraq, Iraq, Afghanistan (caspian sea), Iran, Saudi Arabia etc). A hopelessly dependant oil economy is fucking bank for defense contractors. They LOVE it! It just means the US will be plunged into more war, which means pure cash for them. What all this represents is the hijacking of US stewardship by the Anglo Saxon military-industrial establishment to: 1) create artificial scarcity by suppressing alternative energies from emerging. This ensures the dominance of oil as the worlds premiere energy source and the suppliers of it as masters of the universe for a very long time. With oil our 'only hope' 2) defense contractors are written blank checks by congress for providing the tools to wage war against the terrible bogeyman (read: oil sultans) who would only nuke us if they had the chance!!! Oh, and incidentally, they've also got trillions in oil, which is ironically the only self imposed economic currency our good trusty whores in congress have allowed us to use. So we better jump on the 'war on terror' bandwagon or we're slitting on own throats!! This whole cycle of power consolidation, leading to Congressional sanctioned scarcity (fucking whores), leading to war, and back again, can all be short circuited by free energy. Or something close to it. You put free energy into the equation and the Big Oil scumbags don't have a leg to stand on. Their vast empires are rendered desertified scrap yards overnight. With Westerns no longer needed to tacitly condone thinely veiled oil wars, and the entire Middle East - and its radical Islamic factions - having nothing to do with the oil except eat the shit, Islamic terrorism falls off and defense contractors have nobody to bomb. What happens next is a resurgence of middle America from the crushing fiscal burdons of spiraling energy costs and defense inspired, towering tax rates. Real power - the MONEY - returns from the hands of the controlling elite, to the hands of the many. When you take the fiscal burdon away from American public and releive them of their endless toil for meanial gain, their attention and their emotional stamina will be reenergized and free to explore more enjoyable and productive pursuits - like cultivating a renewed interest in THEIR COUNTRY. This scares the shit out of every two bit congressional whore and industrial war monger out there. Make no mistake. This is why no real attempt by congress, or the President, or any other Governmental body will ever be made to invest SUBSTANTIAL monies into alternative energies and once and for all develop a lasting counter to oil. They would be shot dead in their tracks. Assassinated. There is simply too much money in too few hands that have a overwhelming interest in seeing this nation hopelessly addicted to oil and, as a proxy, war. These same interests own the politicians and our so-called national 'leaders'. These people, 'our leaders', are nothing but whores. Bush or Cheney, or Clinton or Stumpy have no intention of doing sweet-fuck-all about our current energy crisis. They love it. It represents consolidation of power from the masses to the elite. From our checkbooks to theirs, we seal our fates everyday by every pump we squeeze and every lie we eat. Remember what Eisenhower said in his farewell address? " In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist." Its already happened. They've taken over. Edit ................................................................................................ This is an excellent post ............I agree 1000 percent !!!!!!!!!