Investment VS Debt

Discussion in 'Economics' started by myminitrading, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. GTS


    Its certainly better than quoting some tired cliche from your grandfather.
    #21     Jul 18, 2006

  2. Well that tired cliche has stood the test of time. And complex strategies are nothing more than gimmicks to generate revenue for the banks and exchanges that create them.

    Warren buffets strategy seems to do well.
    #22     Jul 18, 2006
  3. On the other hand, how many BG's are there compared to Enron employees who lost their retirement?
    #23     Jul 18, 2006
  4. GTS


    No it hasnt. Most people do not accelerate their mortgage payoff in lieu of investing and historically, long-term investing in equities has produced returns that have outpaced mortgage rates.

    Red herring. Your initial post asked whether it made more sense to invest vs accelerate paying off your motgage. No one has said that the investment must take the form of complex strategies.

    Until I read an actual quote from Warren that says he personally advocates paying off a mortgage faster vs investing I will assume that is something you just made up in a lame attempt to align yourself with someone with some credibility.
    #24     Jul 18, 2006
  5. Well I can see were this is going, The saying from my grandfather was, "Work hard, stay out of debt, save and invest wisely"

    It appears you have gotten a little worked up and your emotions are hot, relax.
    #25     Jul 18, 2006
  6. GTS


    So taking this saying literally, your grandfather advocates waiting until you have enough cash to buying your first car without a loan and your house without a mortgage?

    Like I said before, pithy sayings shouldn't be the basis for your financial planning. Saying "invest wisely" is about as useful as saying "buy low and sell high". The devil is in the details.


    "Never Own Your Home Outright. Instead, Get a Big 30-year Mortgage, and Never Pay It Off — Regardless of Your Age and Income"
    #26     Jul 18, 2006
  7. Yeah, but they are a minority compared to folks who work in similar sized companies who do the same thing. You make a good point, but bear in mind I tempered my position by saying it depends on your age. Folks who were in their 20's, 30's, and early 40's who were betting big on Enron weren't stupid. Taking some chances in your youth and then playing conservative later after you've accumulated something is a decent life strategy. But the folks who were in their late 50's and early 60's who lost everything should have taken precautions. I work for a sound company that offers a stock purchasing plan at a discount. Would I put all my eggs in one basket like that late in life? No way.
    #27     Jul 18, 2006
  8. Note to self: Don't argue with GTS.
    #28     Jul 18, 2006

  9. Your getting confused, first of all a home is the biggest investment most will make, get it investment.

    Pithy? you have to start somewere.
    #29     Jul 18, 2006
  10. GTS


    I thought you said "Stay out of debt"?!? Must have missed the footnote that said its ok to incur debt for investment purposes. Maybe that was your grandmothers saying?

    I'm not confused, its you trying to wrangle a workable financial strategy out of your grandfathers one-liner that has you doing contortions.
    #30     Jul 18, 2006