Inventory Grab Alert 4/30/09!

Discussion in 'Trading' started by AMT4SWA, May 1, 2009.

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  1. I know i have asked this before but I wanted to make sure. Is the spread the largest at the beginning of rollover or towards expiration date?
     
    #1661     Jun 11, 2009
  2. I presume you're talking about the spread between futures and the cash market? As futures contracts get closer to maturity they converge with the cash market.

    So in answer to your question, largest at the beginning of contract, theoretically near zero at maturity . . .
     
    #1662     Jun 11, 2009
  3. Sorry...let me be more specific. The spread from old futures contract and new futures contract. The new futures contract just started trading today and their is a 4 point spread between the old and new one.
     
    #1663     Jun 11, 2009
  4. Yes......rollover is today (for me too for positions held......worked out of old contracts last night and into new contract now). :)
     
    #1664     Jun 11, 2009
  5. AMT... at this point, would you add 4.0 pts to ESM09 contract point values when looking at the delta zones when trading ESU09?

    What would be the adjustment for ESH09 contract point values when considering ESU09?
     
    #1665     Jun 11, 2009
  6. pismo10

    pismo10

    Maybe subtract 4pts..
     
    #1666     Jun 11, 2009
  7. Upper most delta zone is at 949.50 to 953.50 :)

    Primary zone to pay attention to below is 876's to 872.75 now. :)
     
    #1667     Jun 11, 2009
  8. I don't even know how to properly ask this question...

    OK AMT how is the volume handled here with this rollover...

    There is a ton of volume now flowing into the ES U9 contract making the move up today have a higher delta then previous days in the ES U9... which is an aberration... so..

    how do we handle that... :confused:
     
    #1668     Jun 11, 2009
  9. Just so everything makes sense to all.......there has been a lot of range running price action the past few days and this is activity used as those holding large positions shift over holdings to new contracts (dump old contracts at one level and add position back in with new contract at better pricing levels). A good way to handle this when you are holding a SHORT position for instance, is to exit all held positions with a LONG signal and then add the position to the new contract (scaling in) as price trades in your intended direction.......you can at times get very nice position cost basis adjustment doing this. You can also break this action into 3 or 4 separate trades (doing a 3'rd or 4'th of the position with each adjustment trade). :)
     
    #1669     Jun 11, 2009
  10. Easy........keep watching BOTH contracts until net short position is neutralized or until we bust through the 880's-876.75 (old contract) level. Once this happens for the most part you can then just watch the new contract going forward. :)
     
    #1670     Jun 11, 2009
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