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Discussion in 'Journals' started by CFerret, Mar 26, 2008.

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  1. THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: CONTRARIAN THINKING
    If you have read this thread you will have seen lots of times I size up what the majority opinion is and look for a signal that allows me to do the opposite. Contrarian thinking was something I was introduced to early in my trading career and it has stood the test of time in every TF.

    If the minority in any field of human endeavour take the majority of the spoils, it stands to reason that opposing the common view is going to be where the big money is – provided you understand the need for timing.

    When I learned Elliott it was taught as a way of discovering and predicting waves of optimism and pessimism by using Wave Patterns with Fibonacci Timing & Price Ratio’s. In real life it’s a lot easier to write about the theory than demonstrate the practical value of Elliott e.g. Prost & Prechter have a stellar track record of getting their timing well wrong.

    I remember revisiting Elliott about 6 yrs back and trying the best “timing” service to see if I could pick up any ideas on timing. This guy had a fantastic track record so I paid for 4 mths and watched him get every single trade wrong… stopped out. Funny thing was I got every trade right because I thought he put his stop in the wrong place.

    He initially got the direction of the next wave correct but after he was stopped out he couldn’t read the structure and changed his mind, reversing and getting stopped out again as he watched his initial prediction reach fulfilment. His whole secret was Timing. It had worked like a dream for years but now the Midas touch had deserted him. Afterwards from time to time he sent me emails calling for a major reversal in the Dow… and I always did the opposite to his call.

    What he was doing was using Fibonacci timing and looking back over years to find correlations, which were displayed as a histogram. And sure enough it worked like dream… until it became a nightmare. His Elliott pattern always matched his Timing… it looked perfect… so many correlations. After about 2 years of disastrous results he dropped the timing model to a less prominent role in the decision making process. Too much emphasis on Timing or Price or Volume will usually end in tears.

    At this time the stock market has the highest level of short sellers in the past decade and as the market has to do whatever it can do to prove the majority of people wrong, this is looking like a good time for a potent reversal.

    For us, as far as Fx is concerned, if you can pick up from the study of standard TA what the majority view is in a PA pattern or the daily or 1 hr chart view is… look for signals to do the opposite. Understand when to run with the herd as the TF’s roll over and learn how to reverse when it looks a one-way bet. It just takes a bit of refinement on the usual TA techniques and as you gain experience it becomes easier and easier to spot.

    When a market makes a new high as in the Euro, most will play the long trade. I went top fishing because all the cycles were mature. But I’m not so bloody-minded that if it goes up I’m lost about what to do – I’d find it easy to take the long and change my view AFTER the TF’s roll over. That way I’m not lost, standing on the sidelines with holes in my PIB. As I said, taking the next “bus” keeps you on the right side of the market but anytime you pick up what the majority view is – get ready to do the opposite. That’s where ET can be a great real-time sentiment indicator.
     
    #4331     Jul 19, 2008
  2. Hello Baron,

    I agree with the zero firewall and antispy, especially for the charting desktop. Now I only have one computer on my desk, so I am picky on what I browse during the day, and do a double Spyware check each night (two softs).

    Talked to an IT guy from Oasis Assets Management yesterday, their traders in Hong Kong use 8 x 17 (4:3) from 2 matrox QID quad; and their main internet traffic outside of trading is not news sites, but a certain video sharing site start with YOU... LOL

    It seems the pros are not really into 16:10, Chi from chat only use 4:3 at home, while Mastro on ET who post those crazy option trading desk also use 4:3 (24 x 17").

    thanks for the post YH, another great educational one. Especially like this part about being flexible when playing the opposite view. :)
     
    #4332     Jul 19, 2008
  3. #4333     Jul 19, 2008
  4. morning guys, hope every one have a great weekend.

    got back to the desk late this morning (10:30), and found we have a 500 pts gap up, then 94 points intraday range since 10am (10:46 now)

    man this is not a great week to start a week :D
     
    #4334     Jul 20, 2008
  5. 120 range now, looks like it reach the top at the 30min TF's channel.. no confirmation yet :(
     
    #4335     Jul 20, 2008
  6. Banjo

    Banjo

    banks driving asia up:

    Hang Seng Index rises 2.8% to 22,488.58 in early minutes

    are you short?
     
    #4336     Jul 20, 2008
  7. not yet, and likely won't do it in this session.

    Looks and feel bullish, but felt the upside is so small
     
    #4337     Jul 20, 2008
  8. Banjo

    Banjo

    are all those gaps on the 30 min chart normal?
     
    #4338     Jul 20, 2008
  9. Hey Banjo,

    I have been looking to short. I have traded the SPI to the short side and currently am short.

    Was looking to fade the HSI at around the 690 level but as of this post it only made it to 670ish.
     
    #4339     Jul 20, 2008
  10. Hey Will,

    I hope you had a good weekend.

    I think you can do that with Linux and avoid the MS software. You can hook many of them together and get a huge amount of computer power. They are called "poor mans super computers" and even though you are using older computers that by themselves may have little value when you add them together they become huge in terms of computer power.
     
    #4340     Jul 20, 2008
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