Neither of us has poured over the data. But there is certainly enough information against them and the problem is that in the world today, doing science is labelled as bad. When you have people proclaiming that men can be women, that men can have babies, and when its not accepted that there are only 2 biological genders, one has to wonder if there is any true science left. I've also watched enough podcasts from a guy named Dave Collum, a chemistry guy at Cornell, and he sure as heck has gone over shit. He is very skeptical of all the covid bullshit, and also loves to talk about finance and the economy. Is this legitimate enough of a qualified pushback against whatever the government tells you? https://chemistry.cornell.edu/david-b-collum I can list more credible sources from professionals that have been silenced.
I absolutely believe people died of covid, but I also believe that for the majority, almost anyone under 70 or 60 who was in good health, the risk from a vaccine injury was greater than the benefit of the covid shot. People died from the covid shot who would not have died from catching covid. And there is lots of evidence now that the shot has actually decreased your immunity and greatly increased your risk of getting certain cancers.
Do you guys understand how fucked up the policies around the shot are? They were mandating everyone to take it, but prevented you from having any recourse if you were injured from the shot. The entire pharma industry has major provisions to protect themselves from having any responsibility or liability. The truth is that the testing showed that people had major complications, and testing was quickly wrapped up so this didn't become more apparent. Why else did Pfizer insist on blocking access to the data for decades? The reason you might know now any of this is of course because media blocked you from hearing it, which you of course support.
Ok so like everything nowadays its a matter of who you believe. I haven't lost faith or maybe I should say complete faith in those qualified in their field. Including I might add journalists. Though not all obviously.
I think with journalists, the ship has sailed. Every media outlet is owned by somebody, and that completely affects the type of issues they can cover, and the spin they put on the event. There is no such thing as independent journalism anymore. The worst are the government funded ones. And yes, it comes down to who you believe. I'm sure both @newwurldmn and I can cite reliable sources, so its down to who we believe. Even with science, how you do it can make a big difference. But at least Dave points out that he understand that at the universities, many professors have the choice to either be impartial and lose their jobs, and follow the prescribed narrative and continue to be able to make money and take care of their families. So I do believe that the Pharma covid machine is so strong and powerful that you can't really trust the science anymore. Lets not forget that these Pharma companies made their money from governments. None of us paid for the vaccine, its all government dollars, and these guys are fighting hard to keep the funding going. So of course they would suppress anything bad about the vaccines.
One guy challenging the conventional understanding doesn’t mean the consensus is wrong. There are scientists that are saying the earth is flat. They have fancy math to prove it and ignore the fact that astronauts have literally seen the earth as a globe. what do you believe?
Interesting read. The Myth of Musk: How Elon Conned the World The Superhero Origin Story the World's Richest Man Doesn't Want You to Know https://shanealmgren.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-musk-how-elon-conned
Found it from this spot on article: "NEWSWEEK Trump and Musk's Brittle, Shared Secret Gets Exposed What President Donald Trump and Elon Musk share more than anything else—and have built their lives on—is one keen insight into American psychology. Let's call it the Glass Onion principle. In the movie Glass Onion (spoiler alert), a detective investigates a case involving a billionaire. He's supposedly a tech visionary, but at the end, is revealed actually to be "an idiot": a man who never came up with original ideas, hyped and took credit for the inspirations of others, and yet thinks he's smart enough to mess around with powerful forces he doesn't understand. His many blunders should have made it obvious, except for the aura of wealth and success—and therefore the assumption of underlying brilliance—that shielded him. Sound familiar? This is the secret that Musk and Trump understand. Americans desperately want to be rich, so we elevate those who have achieved wealth. And we so easily conflate talent and success that we get confused about which one implies the other. So it's not just that the key for creating a self-fulfilling prophecy is to always project prosperity—an idea that's been around for ages—it's also that if you can, others will infer that you have a special genius. Even if it's blatantly hollow. Even if it's a brazen myth. And that lets you get away with outrageous things. The basic pattern is all around us. It's the same dynamic that fueled the rise of kitschy grifters preaching the exceptionally icky prosperity theology—the belief that material success must be a sign of divine favor. How else to explain Christian ministers showing off their Rolls Royces while demanding that their congregants buy them $65 million jets... while people nod along and name universities in their honor? It's the same notion that drives modern celebrity culture. It used to be that success made you a celebrity; now the fact that you're a celebrity makes you a success. How else to explain that one of the world's most prolific and talented musicians, Taylor Swift, is worth $1.4 billion, while the meritless Kim Kardashian leveraged nothing more than a friendship with Paris Hilton, a sex tape, and a reality TV show into a higher net worth of $1.7 billion? It's like one of those optical illusions where your brain fills in gaps to form a familiar picture: once people think you're rich and famous they'll assume that your underlying genius (stable or not) should probably be given a lot of room to maneuver. The fact that Musk and Trump both saw this explains a lot about their biographies. As Substacker Shane Almgren recently laid out in riveting detail, the Musk myth has all the hallmarks of a long con. At every step, he's been able to invest some money into other people's good ideas and then cash out—literally and figuratively—with more money and a gaudier reputation, despite contributing very little. Quite the opposite: others have had to fix his bad technical ideas, subsidize him (including $465 million in 2010 from a U.S. government that he's recently decimated for being "wasteful," and tens of billions more from foreign governments, including China, with whom we're now in a trade war), or pay him to go away. But Musk understood the Glass Onion principle. While he was being pushed out of PayPal, he conceded that they could take everything else away but insisted in a binding legal agreement that they had to call him a "founder." Ditto at Tesla, where Musk pushed out an actual founder, and then paid him off in a court settlement that again required that Musk be called the "founder." These had to be his ideas, his creations. History may not repeat, but in the case of Trump it sure does rhyme. He took an initial $413 million (in 2018 dollars) inheritance from his father and invested it in a string of doomed enterprises. He was such a bad businessman that he went bankrupt six times. By 2021, Trump would have actually been worth more if he had never touched his dad's money and just let it ride in the stock market. But like Musk, Trump's one clear talent is that he is a fantastic hype man for his own story. On the verge of financial ruin, he was saved by re-selling his myth via The Apprentice. And then Trump did it again two decades later, when in 2024 he was in real danger of getting wiped out by almost $500 million in legal penalties. He was pulled out of the danger zone by the meme stock-like explosion of Truth Social. This was the ultimate example of the Trump pattern: reaping a mind-boggling windfall based on the initiative of other people and the value of attaching his invented cult of personality to an otherwise flailing business (and yes, of course Trump nearly messed up the deal; and yes, of course he then turned around and backstabbed the people who made it happen). Because, like Musk, Trump understands the secret. That's why he so zealously guards the foundation of his myth. Look no further than the fact that in 2011, Trump agreed to be the subject of a Comedy Central roast with ground rules that they could make fun of anything— his bizarre relationship his daughter, his synthetic hair, his weight—except questioning how wealthy he actually was. Because that's the wellspring of everything, the source of his popularity, the Horcrux that has preserved his political life. And now, these two reputational Ponzi schemes have crashed into the Peter Principle. With Musk, as with his fictional Glass Onion counterpart, the signs were building. His failures with the hyperloop, the Boring Company, and Twitter should have given ample warning. But Trump gave him license to take the same approach to the federal government that he took with Twitter—demolish with no plan, only the hint that a genius was at work. The result has been the same disaster. And in the past week, Trump's half-baked ideas about global trade have encountered the harsh reality of economics. It turns out that bond markets don't react well when you try to explain your plan to reshape global commerce through a nonsensical formula that a sixth grader could concoct and a haphazard chart that features tariffs on penguins. Trump and Musk are truly onions made of glass: shiny orbs of one insubstantial layer over another, with nothing in the center, liable to be shattered under the slightest pressure. But will the failures fell the fabulists? Only if we can finally pierce their spell and snap out of the collective mass delusion they've weaved." https://www.newsweek.com/trump-musks-brittle-shared-secret-gets-exposed-opinion-2058813
That's fair, but the fact of the matter is that no side should ever prevent the other side from making their case. But with Covid vaccines, everyone who didn't believe was silenced. Why go to so much trouble if you know your vaccine works? (and I doubt there is math to prove the earth is flat) We let the flat eather's do their thing. They are more than welcome to present evidence, and the good thing about science is that it is evidence based. But as I outlined, the scientific process when it came to the Covid vaccine was a joke. If you dig enough, you would find out the huge holes said by people on the inside. These mRNA vaccines are far too new to base anything on, and the fact that people were forced into it was a grave injustice. Lets also not forget all the videos we saw of officials having wild parties or not wearing their masks while at the same time mandating all of this bullshit. The entire Covid history is a shit show. Lets even take an easy one like gender. How many biological genders are there? There is literally no good fight by the crazy people if you go down to the genetics level. I know penises can be chopped off, and I know hormone therapy make a huge difference, but your genes don't lie about what your gender was at birth. When you let crazy people on the left completely destroy this scientifically based foundation, there is no hope.