Interesting Chess Move

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Sep 25, 2022.

  1. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    AND.... it has absolutely ZERO to do with being a Trump supporter.
    What my post has to do with is the Biden Administration knee-capping something very dear to Trump... his ability to brand something. Which he did quite well with "MAGA".

    I'm sorry if that escaped your tunnel-vision.
    Slow down and re-read.
     
    #11     Sep 25, 2022
  2. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    If you don't think Biden knee-capped the physical apparition of that slogan... you're nuts.
     
    #12     Sep 25, 2022
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    What are you talking about?
     
    #13     Sep 26, 2022
  4. How were you able to identify MAGA supporters at a football game without their hats?

    Let’s suppose you are correct and Trump supporters are afraid to wear their hats. They are afraid to express their beliefs in public. What does that say about our media, Democrats, and the current state of our system? Were people afraid to express themselves under Trump? Politics under Biden, like it was under Obama, is about shaming people for who they are and their beliefs, if they are not supportive of Left wing ideals. Under Obama, people felt guilty for being White, successful, being a man, or being Conservative. You remember? I think its related to identity politics. After six plus years of constant media attacks on Trump, he is still going strong. For reasons stated plus the fact his supporters want the US to return to its former status as being great again. How do you perceive the US’s trajectory over the last few decades? Do you believe the same people who caused our problems will fix them? Biden is a career politician. Trump was new to politics and is certainly an outsider.

    You would think the same people “Afraid” to wear a MAGA hat would be afraid to go to his rally. You would think that if Trump supporters were “Ashamed” to support Trump, they would not support him. Surely you have noticed the ramp up of Anti-Trump rhetoric in the media lately. Do you think its coincidence that Midterms are upon us? That Democrats are trying to energize their base, perhaps?

    The media and the DNC know how risky Trump is to their Socialist agenda. Trump is a leader, versus Biden, an administrator. In many areas, we need real leadership right now. It is too bad our media spends a lot of time trying to discredit Trump instead of getting their own house in order. Biden and the media just do not have enough credibility to turn Trump supporters away in significant numbers.

    Consider this, any other man besides Trump would have withered against 1/4th the media and justice department onslaught he has faced. If that is not resilience that deserves respect, I don’t know what is. This is just one of the reasons why many continue to support Trump.

    Back to hats. There are other reasons to explain the apparent lack of hats on a relatively tightly cropped photo(s) in (a) specific point(s) in time. Deferred replacement of old hats, supply chain issues, perhaps temperature, for example. One thing is for certain, many more people are willing to take the time out of their day to attend Trump rallies versus Biden rallies. Luckily for Biden, if enthusiasm at rallies were an absolute national indicator of popularity, Trump would have been re-elected. Then again, perhaps the Biden enjoyed some “Behind the scenes” enthusiasm on election night, if you know what I mean.

    Biden and the media are about repressing ideas that are not leftist ideals. Repressing ideas is a form of repression against people that leads to resentment. This resentment manifests itself into lower productivity, adversely affecting all of us, regardless of political belief. For example, Biden vaccine mandates resulted in civil disobedience among airline pilots and flight attendants resulting in unnecessary flights delays. American Airline pilots paid for a billboard in DFW, Texas to express their grievances about the company they work for. I have a roommate who works at American Airlines who told me employees blamed their company for complying with the mandate. Long story short, the airline did have to comply, but that didn’t stop employees from taking out their frustration on the company. On passengers. On our supply chain. On our country. Biden did that. In effect. Through his mandate. Plus long simmering airline employee resentment. My area of expertise is trucking. Drivers seem more likely to place their needs first now. There is less concern of “Meeting a higher cause” than before. Nationalism, at least to a degree, has its perks.

    Trump is about making sure the productive get rewarded and Biden is about subsidizing the unproductive for political gain. In other words, the unproductive are incentivized to vote while the productive are disincentivized to be productive. I wonder if there is a relationship between productivity and inflation? Between productivity and supply chain issues? Rhetorical questions. Yes, I’m thinking beyond Covid lockdown effects and pent up demand.

    So tell us, who do you believe better represents the interests of Americans? Biden or Trump?
     
    #14     Sep 26, 2022
  5. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Bingo. There ya go. And Biden's speech exploited that system perfectly. The media frenzy following that speech was the exact result they wanted.

    You're going on and on and on about your political beliefs... and that's not why I fucking post this. It's about marketing ok? I don't care what you think, or what your roomates think, it has nothing to fucking do with the post. My point was, Biden's speech pariah'd Trump's trademark "MAGA". The visible, physical, manifestation of those 4 letters.

    Absolutely no relevance to this discussion or the future ubiquity of a carefully crafted Trump trademark.
     
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    #15     Sep 26, 2022
  6. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    But just to answer your question here:

    Neither, but Trump's policies do by far.
    As a candidate however, he needs to pass the torch to someone that will mirror those policies.
     
    #16     Sep 26, 2022
  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    ridiculous. We've told you Maggats you were in the wrong side of history for years and you'd hang your head in shame for following an abhorrent belief system when you'd want to mingle in polite company at some point. So now we here. Don't go blaming your shame on the dems now.

    Party of personal responsibility my balls, what a joke.
    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/magatards-wish-to-forget-their-buyers-remorse.369386/
     
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    #17     Sep 26, 2022
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  8. Perhaps you’ve forgotten. I am a registered Democrat. Unlike some, however, I don’t drink all the DNC serves. Especially nowadays.

    Much of Leftist policies are economically and socially unsustainable. Even their alternate energy initiatives are being implemented inefficiently, such as building solar plants on otherwise productive farmland.

    Our politicians need to ensure people have a vested interest in our system to help maintain a certain level of productivity and civil obedience for hopefully a reasonable quality of life for most. Recent events in Russia show the results of Russians not feeling they have a vested interest, for example. Actually, an entire book could be written on the previous statement. Russian life is our future if certain Democrat Party practices are left unchallenged or unmodified such as politicizing the justice department, potentially weaponing the IRS, and suppressing freedom of political expression.

    It is through honest debate and exchange of ideas that better solutions on the issues are obtained. Democrats and much of US media have been attempting to suppress that which is not perceived by them as supporting their agenda. Seems defensive to me. After all, if Democrat ideas are so good, why are they afraid of those ideas being challenged?

    Again, Democrat and media conduct is having a suppressive effect on a large number of people in this country, many of whom are productive. This disenfranchisement will manifest into lower productivity and investment resulting in a lower standard of life for all of us in the long term. In other words, repression, regardless of reason, beliefs, race, etc, is counterproductive for society. I would have thought the “Party of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr” would have remembered that.
     
    #18     Sep 26, 2022
  9. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    But republican voter.
     
    #19     Sep 26, 2022
  10. Great question. No specific answer to it will be forthcoming, however.
     
    #20     Sep 26, 2022