InteractiveBrokers "hyper-hypothecates" $14.5b of Customer Funds?

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by Chicago_CTA, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Daal

    Daal

    Is the part that is not included in the ''largely based upon 140% of customer debit balances'', coming from IB Stock Enhancement Yield Program?
     
    #171     Dec 9, 2011
  2. Daal

    Daal

    Are you saying you IB only has utilized 6% of its right to pledge?
     
    #172     Dec 9, 2011
  3. Daal

    Daal

    Please list the 'proprietary operations'(Any sort of risk that IB is taking that is not in US treasuries, Agencies or FDIC guaranteed debt) from IB and how they are financed
     
    #173     Dec 9, 2011
  4. Thank you IB-AN for posting this information. Indeed, the Reuters article may need some corrections.

    With all the different numbers in those statements and the different "experts" flying around here and interpreting on their own, it's hard to not get confused and worried.
     
    #174     Dec 9, 2011
  5. Did you not read the "DOES NOT IN ANY WAY" part of the sentence? They just said they do not do that.
     
    #175     Dec 9, 2011
  6. ram

    ram

    Anyone have any data about Vision Financial Markets, re: hypothecation? The clause is in their agreements.
     
    #176     Dec 9, 2011
  7. Nick29

    Nick29


    I think we should start a thread that monitors the repo assets to repo liability ratio's of the major brokers on a full time basis.
    So if a firm's ratio got up to MF Global like levels in the future the EliteTrader community would be alerted and can take action.
     
    #177     Dec 9, 2011
  8. Daal

    Daal

    They said they didn't do that with CLIENT money but they can do it by borrowing from third parties. Indeed, that was Mr Corzine's plans for MF Global
     
    #178     Dec 9, 2011
  9. IB-AN

    IB-AN Interactive Brokers

    If you refer to the balance sheet, you'll note that customer receivables (e.g., margin debits) total $9.31 billion which at 140% total approximately $13.0 billion. You are correct in that we do don't fully utilize this capacity.
     
    #179     Dec 9, 2011
  10. western

    western

    Here is a key question.

    Lets say that a broker does re-hypo 140% of the assets and then for some reason the broker immediately declares bankrupcy.

    Now you have assets that theoretically part of a customer's account at another firm.

    Assuming all rules have been followed, are customer accounts still segregated? What happens to the re-hypo assets when a firm goes under?



    I ask this because while I'm glad IB appears to be using only a small part of its re-hypo capacity, there is no guarantee that this won't change in the future, especially if IB itself ever faces a liquidity crunch.
     
    #180     Dec 9, 2011