No @Zzzz1, we just don't understand It's simple see... 1+1=2, so then 1-1 is also 2 and therefore, the hedge works in two ways. So you can't lose money, because it's hedged see... but you can win money, since you make money on the long... OR the short... so 3x a win = billionaires.... EDIT... shit... I just gave away my brilliant strategy!!!! Well, back to the drawing board than
It might be a feasible strategy if you are long the stock and then want to take a long and short position on an option in order to cover potential losses in the underlying. IF for some reason you want to hold the stock (can't liquidate due to legal/tax reasons)? Not profitable, but it protects your held interest.
That is also nonsense. You can trade a long call and put but that would result in a straddle/strangle and would be an entirely different payoff profile. Anyone who claims a long and short position simultaneously on the trading book in the exact same instrument makes any economic sense is totally deluded. The payoff profile will always be zero over the netted out notional amount. I would love to use a harsher language but I try hard to hold on to myself because it's not my money lost but the one of a slightly incapacitated human being.
No, I think @HappyTrader talks about having a conversion on... long stock, short synthetic in options. I get that, if that would help with pushing capital gains tax further out. But OP's and lots of others posts make 1-1=0 sense
To protect a long stock with an option only requires a long put. A limited upside with collecting additional premium requires only a short call. But not a long and short call or long and short put of same strike and same expiration.
Yeah I know, but it could be that you want to fully exit the long, but don't want to pay the capital gains yet in this financial year... and therefore trade the synthetic short against it. So short call and long put in same strike. So you're flat, but haven't officially realized the gain yet tax wise. i think @HappyTrader is pointing to that....
You need an specific "edge" Having both positions on will not be an edge,it is just that two positions.What profit or loss you will incur will be random and perhaps you run a good "streak" and will close trades at the profit.It is just coincidence. I made the comment,because I build mechanical strategies which don't use technical indicators.Browse through my past posts and i put 2 of them up. I do calculations based on sets of open,close,high,low(can not be specific here) and the amount to bet I use methodical betting calculations based on past trades. My edge is there somewhere. I repeat what has been said already,you will be paying more to the broker and if it works for you,because you closed at the profit that is nice.Just don't mistake that for an edge.
Yes Qwerty. Buying and Selling the same pair, at the exact same time will always = Zero profits. But at least you wont lost anything, right?
Hello Qw3rty, yes it's totally doable and can be consistently profitable. It will mostly come down to entrance timing and pairs being watched. Not necessarily long eur/usd and short eur/usd at the same time.