Interactive Brokers Charges to Accounts with Worst-Case Loss Exposure

Discussion in 'Interactive Brokers' started by chtrader, Aug 19, 2022.

  1. chtrader

    chtrader

    :rolleyes: Right...

    Well, why not $1 or $10? or? Their proprietary algorithm determines it, so it can be any number?
     
    #11     Aug 20, 2022
  2. chtrader

    chtrader

    As I said, I've been trading for over a decade, but I've never seen this. And the leverage thing is actually a good thing, since small accounts have a much higher chance of blowing up. But you need to be able to handle big accounts.
     
    #12     Aug 20, 2022
  3. d08

    d08

    It's good up to a limit. In the end risk should be shifted more to traders and not brokers. Brokers should be middlemen, as they were initially.
     
    #13     Aug 20, 2022
  4. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    #14     Aug 20, 2022
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  5. chtrader

    chtrader

    Thanks, interesting but long thread.
    There's another thread at reddit which explains that whenever you make a trade you can see if it impacts your exposure fee. I checked it and it is displayed e.g. in the order preview window.

    One of the things mentioned in the Elite thread was:
    IB says "Exposure Fees only apply to a small minority of IB customer accounts with unusually risky positions."

    But I have been doing this for a long time, and never have I been charged this fee. Strange...

    One thing that's different is that I started withdrawing money from my account...o_O
     
    #15     Aug 20, 2022
  6. chtrader

    chtrader

    Yeah, it's funny, I've blown up many accounts and took on very risky positions again and again, but never have I been charged this fee before.
     
    #16     Aug 20, 2022
  7. d08

    d08

    The instruments you trade had risk reassessed. I've never blown up depending on the definition but I've still gotten that tax.
     
    #17     Aug 20, 2022
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  8. chtrader

    chtrader

    I'm trading the same instruments I've been trading for years NQ futures (of which the margin has increased dramatically over the years BTW). I've stopped blowing up accounts though, instead starting to withdraw money.
     
    #18     Aug 20, 2022
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    Good points;
    leverage risk warning + good = its a good idea for the broker protection + stockholders protection.
    I w as reading a business book ''Harder I work.....'' Joe Ricketts , when he was building AMTD + 1987 crash\ some of the[stocks] margin accounts they sold were above selling price shortly afterwards, , fast rebound move then .
    And some1987 crash accounts \they sent FEDX margin call warnings , but never had to be liquidated, because of the fast rebound:caution::caution: [Those must have been better, best customers or those maybe $1 around margin sell area??] interesting...........
     
    #19     Aug 20, 2022
  10. Millionaire

    Millionaire

    Did you increase the number of lots you trade?

    If you became profitable vs losing, i would guess you must have.
     
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    #20     Aug 20, 2022