12-21-05 01:06 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from ElCubano: An end of year 'GOD' thread...wow right on time...things have not changed around here... Pabst, Stu, ZZtop, Defags, surfturd ....Merry Christmas to you'll merry christmas, cubano! surf
Things like ID don't need attacking, they fall over all by themselves. It has been refused by parents, schools and Courts for the sham it is.
stu: When I cited postors in earlier post who missed the point, I wasn't necessarily citing you. But since you're--in a way--asking for help and explanation, I'll explain it to you. ID is indeed being attacked: it is in fact being attacked in federal court. Why are you even posting about it? Does every federal case get hours of prime time media coverage? Do you buy a stock, because Jim Cramer tells you to? Do you eat fat and shun carbs, because Atkins tells you to? Would you jump off a cliff if I so ordered you? Isn't it true that Cramer often pitches stocks he owns? Isn't it true that Adkins pitched a diet for money? Isn't it true that some media people have nearly absolute choice in what we view? Isn't it true that Jews are overwhelmingly overrepresented in media? Isn't it true that Jews share political interests? Why did Spielberg make and provulgate "Schindler's List" and "Munich"? Did Spielberg just happen to arbitrarily feel an urge to commemorate Jews? Attacking Christian fundamentalists is consistent with Jews' shared political aims, and attacking ID is just a means to that aim.
I have made an observational case for intelligent design, rather than random lifeless ignorant chance. Science is after all observation. Everyone can observe the consistency of the nature of biological organisms to be born, sustain life for a relatively predictable period of time on the whole, and then die. All biological organisms do the same thing. They all have life spans, they all seek to maintain life in normative conditions. This programming, this design of biological organisms which is unyielding and has never been shown to produce any biological organism that deviates from this fundamental pattern is clearly ordered, predictable, and governed by some force which is not random. All biological organisms seek naturally to sustain life, and will attempt to adapt to and overcome all obstacles to their continued existence. You don't agree with it, or my observations or theory that this programming of biological organisms is a product of a program of intelligent design, fine. There is no need to convince you. You just try to prove it false. Self evident it is, for anyone, and everyone to see for themselves. I read Judge Jones take, and when the case goes eventually to the supreme court, there may perhaps be another take. After all, judges render their opinions. It is stated in our Declaration that certain truths are self evident for all men, that they are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Is this a theory? Yes, but it is based on the principle of self evidence. Those who deny what is self evident to all considered sane, are then thought to be insane. Self evidence is the starting point of everything. Science need not be fancy and mysterious. Just like the church who attempted to maintain power over the common man through the use of "secrecy" and "special ability" of clergy, so to the scientific community tries to maintain control through their "scientists are smarter" modus operandi.
"*I* have made an *observational case* for intelligent design".. GEESUS! TOO FUNNNNY!! forget planet what DIMENSION are you from!!?? ZZ is deepocket chopra on STEROIDS!!!!!! LMAO
"Nothing at all was lost....from my perspective. Only potential gain may have been missed. If you didn't win something previously not revealed to you, it would not be because you were beaten.....it would only be because you were playing a game....I was not." Um, Roberk used the word "triumphalism". The irresistable obfuscative force, meets the immovable irrational object. And all in a single Zpost!