Intelligent design not so intellignt.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, May 14, 2010.

  1. Wallet

    Wallet

    #21     May 14, 2010
  2. that could all be true. if so can you think of any reason that humans should worship a being that could care less about human suffering?
     
    #22     May 14, 2010
  3. The beauty of this slippery argument is that you can justify just about anything with such mystical divinity talk, even when it flies in the face of your own "god-given" cognition. However, would "god" want you to disregard the very cognitive capability "he" had given you?

    I don't see how a theist can win this argument. If a theist uses the judgment he is presumably capable of, then he can only conclude that "god" is not good. If a theist does not use his cogntive capability and judgment, then he is disregarding his "god-given" gift of reason, which is the only thing that has brought him out of his cave. You really have to squint and use pretzel "logic" to make it all "come together" as a theist.

    Epicurus: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
     
    #23     May 14, 2010
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    My point is that "could (sic) care less" implies that our understanding of suffering is the best (or only) understanding of suffering, and that may not be true.
     
    #24     May 14, 2010
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    For it to have any hope of being plausible one has to be able to infer that, like the amoeba to ourselves there may be an analogous relationship from ourselves to a god. To an atheist, proceeding from the forgone conclusion that there is no higher power than ourselves, there can be no higher understanding than ours.
     
    #25     May 14, 2010
  6. "“if you are a person of faith, you can’t do science, in fact, you aren’t even capable or qualified to do scientific work. If you don’t believe in Darwinism, we can’t give you a degree in science or publish any paper you have written in one of our scientific journals. You can’t be both a person of faith and a good scientist.“

    this is bs. can you imagine the fame and fortune awaiting the christian scientist that produced any evidence refuting the toe?

    in the 150 plus years since darwin no piece of evidence has ever been found that would falsify evolution. no reason you cant keep trying but dont expect the scientific community to give you credibility until you present something credible.
     
    #26     May 14, 2010
  7. i understand. it is possible that god,if he exists, is like the little boy that likes to light ants on fire to watch them scramble for kicks. maybe to god we are nothing more than ants. why should humans worship such a being?
     
    #27     May 14, 2010
  8. Ricter

    Ricter

    Statements like that indicate that you've already made up your mind, so why ask questions??
     
    #28     May 14, 2010
  9. questions prod people into thinking about what they believe and why they believe it.
     
    #29     May 14, 2010
  10. so. Massimo Pigliucci, a Professor of Philosophy at the City University of New York disagrees with ken miller, a cell biologist who works every day in the field of cell biology, about cell biology?
    can you see any problems here?
     
    #30     May 14, 2010