Intelligent Design is not creationism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Teleologist, Nov 4, 2006.

  1. As is often the case, the tree watchers are unable to see the forest.

    Still waiting for proof of chance.

    Heck, how about describing how to falsify chance?
     
    #791     Nov 27, 2006
  2. simple: describe a scientific experiment that wld establish a causality...

    any other questions?
     
    #792     Nov 27, 2006
  3. Three possible falsifications of chance: (1) simultaneously measure the position and momentum of an electron; (2) find a repeating pattern ithat accounts for the entire spectrum of atmospheric background radiation; (3) measure PI with certainty.

    OK, your turn. Show us how to falsify design.
     
    #793     Nov 27, 2006
  4. You can falsify design by proving chance.

    Oh wait, you can't do that with certainty...because you have no certainty.

    My bad...

    Hmmm, let's see. You can say you can't find a designer, so design is impossible...

    Wait, that begs the question that you wouldn't even necessarily know the designer if they were standing right in front of you...

    Nope, sure looks like we don't have any test to falsify design or non design, so let's throw them both out, and teach what we know...

     
    #794     Nov 27, 2006
  5. Yep, there it is! Eureka! 2 physicists are listed! That means that physics now says with certainty that Heisenberg's principle is at work as the source of chance.

    Oh wait...I guess it doesn't do that at all.

    My bad. Two physicists don't make a consensus in physics, or do they?

    We do have 2 scientists supporting the claim of uncertainty principle, so maybe that is enough to make it so...

    So, so, so...if we have 2 scientists who support ID that would also make it so...

    Wait, wait, wait...

    What does this have to do with design vs. chance?


     
    #795     Nov 27, 2006
  6. zizzz thats fine if u don't get it u know...
     
    #796     Nov 27, 2006
  7. Proving chance doesn't disprove design. Design is reality Humans breed dogs, plants, etc.

    The issue is scientific proof of ID, which requires confirmation by verifiable experiment.

    The lazy man's way out is to construct logical proofs with unprovable falsifications as a means of avoiding actual experimentation.

    The ID community is lazy. If you want to prove that a designer exists, then go find the evidence.

    But, if your goal is to find a supernatural designer, that is a waste of time, because it cannot be proven by any scientific means.

    You fall into your own trap by trying to logically prove the unprovable.
     
    #797     Nov 27, 2006
  8. Non ID worshipers illogically assume chance...

     
    #798     Nov 27, 2006
  9. In your opinion. If you want to prove it, you'll need to actually conduct real experiments -- not sit in front of the computer declaring your opinions as fact.
     
    #799     Nov 27, 2006
  10. Real experiments on chance, with no way to rule out design, oh yeah baby...



     
    #800     Nov 27, 2006