The body is an engine of destruction. It is designed to destroy the mind that powers it. The beneficiary is an artificially intelligent designer that parasitically "lives" as long as the mind is unable to shake it loose, thus compromising it's ability to function properly. The body nearly guarantees that the mind is forever unable to function properly, thus destroying it. What can die was never alive. So the body is a machine. It exists upon fiat of belief, and obeys the dictates of a confused mind. Thus it dies. The body is for dying. The artificially intelligent designer is unable to make anything that actually lives. The designer has capitalized on the mind's belief in it's ability to separate, segregate, divide, subdivide, split up, compartmentalize, and privatize. The body is this belief manifested in some form. So the body is actually just a symbol symbolizing a belief system. The belief system behind the building of the body includes a death wish. It is a logical conclusion based on what the mind believes about itself. Only as the mind believes the truth about itself is the body able to symbolize an inability to die. This is accomplished as the artificial intelligence that designed the body is stripped of it's influence on the mind it feeds off of. Jesus
I find the New Testament motif of the Living God having an experience of death to be a truely fascinating one of which the deeper implementations have been largely ignored by Christianity. Instead it seems most Christians keep each other busy by perpetuating the pagan idea that a god being made them from a hump of clay. Intelligent design is a variant of this idea, window dressed a bit to meet the needs of a modern society. The result is that attention is diverted away from questions about life, death and the nature of God that truely matter and that drove people towards religion in the first place.
The vacuum energy found in this universe is clearly created by the animus between the participants of this thread.
How dare you!!! Now say ten hail mary's, drink the blood of a (dead) sinner, and flaggelate youself, with big whips, into a coma, you heathen. Oh wait, thats catholics......well same deal, anyhoo.
gawsh jem, I certainly do seem to rattle your cage. What are you so interminably angry about? The thing about The Scientific Method which persistently evades you is , it doesn't matter what high priests of science assert, it's what they prove scientifically which actually counts. You may not have noticed , things are completely opposite in your world. Where priests lead you by the nose through only assertion and superstition, under fear of an irrational threat of eternal proportions. And that is then what you say understanding should be based upon. I do see how you would get so frustrated when religious assertion was all you could achieve from the posing of these questions. But I think you are very foolish to then take it out on science and scientists by trying to distort or demean them or what they say, to fit with your religious beliefs the way you do , just because they can prove stuff. And for some (perverse) reason, you still think multiverses will allow a gap for God to sit in. In any case there are still as many scientists whose views do not coincide with those multiverses you have latched onto, as there are whose do. It's what becomes the most scientifically validated that will make a difference.
Yes, the world is set up to be a distraction. Think of the designer as an illusionist. An illusionist does indeed divert attention away from what is really going on. If anyone ever explained what is really going on, his words could be twisted around to become just another distraction guised as religion. And this is because the sleepers dreaming of this world are still very intent on keeping the dream alive. This requires ever more ingenious ways of subverting the truth to maintain sleep and it's delusions. The world is set up to mock and kill God. If anything at all can be killed, then God can be killed. Certainly, if His Son can be killed, surely He can be killed. Mark my words, this world is intended to kill the Son of God. This can only seem possible if the body were made something special, something of value, something real...some kind of identity. Now, if you can get God into a body, then you have a chance to kill him. But God is not mocked by all this impossibility. The death of God can only occur as a parody. This world is a sad parody, and my "death" was a parody upon a parody. Everyone in a body dies because everyone in a body is "the artist formerly known as" the Son of God. And it is the designer's intent to kill such God. Therefore, every death is my death...but only as a parody. So my resurrection is a parody of everyone's resurrection. It prophecies the inevitable waking of each mind from a nightmare. Each mind wakes to find it is one mind, and the dream is forgotten. Jesus
Stu wrote: You are the one that is ill informed. Considering the the F-ATP synthase, Science News reported "With parts that resemble pistons and a drive shaft, the enzyme F1-ATPase looks suspiciously like a tiny engine. Indeed, a new study demonstrates that's exactly what it is." Science News vol 151, p173 That description fits a machine not a chemical reaction.
Stu replies: Cells reproduce. Molecular machines do not reproduce. They are assembled within the cell part by part. Do some research. Stu replied: Nonsense. The peer-reviewed literature calls the F1-ATP synthase the smallest electrical machine created by Nature and describes its parts as: rotor, shaft, stator, and clutch. Stu wrote: The ATP synthase is a machine. It either originated via intelligent design or sheer dumb luck. I happen to think intelligent design is the better explanation. No logical fallacy there.