Intelligent Design is not creationism

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Teleologist, Nov 4, 2006.

  1. stu

    stu

    You converted to Gilbertism then. Prase be. Gilbert truly works in mysterious ways.
    Even with TrollZzz apparently.
     
    #3171     Sep 8, 2007
  2. More delusion from the "rational" side of life...

     
    #3172     Sep 8, 2007
  3. There's evidence of pathological design everywhere!

    Scientists could probably get more funding if they approached it this way.

    The findings would probably be allowed in the schools.

    The only catch is you are what you teach! :)


    It beats "son of amoeba".

    Jesus
     
    #3173     Sep 8, 2007
  4. In fact, there's evidence everywhere that pathological design is evolving!

    No need to venture out to a remote island to discover it!

    Stu, you may have found your calling!

    Jesus
     
    #3174     Sep 8, 2007
  5. Stu wrote:
    It is your contention that Behe is a creationist. It is my contention that Behe and Crick both posit that intelligence was behind the origin of life on earth. If positing that intelligence was behind the origin of life on earth makes one a creatioist then Crick was a creationist. So one more time: let's see your definition of creationist.
     
    #3175     Sep 9, 2007
  6. Turok

    Turok

    Whether people realize it or not, almost all arguments and disagreements revolve around definitions.

    JB
     
    #3176     Sep 9, 2007
  7. Yes, and notice that Stu refuses to give us his definition of creationist.
     
    #3177     Sep 9, 2007
  8. Stu wrote:
    You're confusing your scenario with mine. In my scenario the detective makes an initial inference to teleological causation which 99.9% of the time would be correct. But this is not the final conclusion. This is the beginning of an investigation. I never said a design inference is alway 100% accurate. The point of the illustration was that in certain cases a design inference is warranted and worth investigating. No one is saying that an investigation couldn't uncover evidence that would prove an initial design inference wrong.
     
    #3178     Sep 9, 2007
  9. Stu wrote:
    No, your argument is silly. Design is design. How does fairy design differ from human-like design? While there is an obvious connection between intelligent engineers and things like machines, I don’t see the connection between fairies and machines. Unless of course, you want to envision such entities as intelligent engineers, in which case, their fairyishness is irrelevant.
     
    #3179     Sep 9, 2007
  10. Stu wrote:
    So you can never infer design in any case? You don't think this post is the result of a teleological process? I guess you think it best to stop the regress of explanation at the computer screen itself.
     
    #3180     Sep 9, 2007