So what? I have given you just as many links and quotes. From your links and quotes you make assertions for Susskind. Other links and quotes (plus a single ounce of common sense if you had any) refute those (your) assertions you make on Susskind's behalf. And there you are. I gave you a quote showing you Susskind was not The founder of string theory. So what did you do but to then say he is now "one of the founders".. but then you repeat later that Susskind was The founder. You don't like that fact so you start with the insults. btw the childish way you say "Italian guy" ... itâs Gabriele Veneziano who is also a "great minds" of science as you described Susskind. Watsup, can't you bring your self to cut&past "Italian guy "âs name - as it is the point where you started to get it all wrong? Again, so what.!! Non of it confirms what you say it does. For instance you use the word "design" to mean anything which is created from outside. You use "design" to mean intelligent design. Nowhere does Susskind say any of that. You do, but as can be seen , you will say anything to support ID/Creationism even if it is absurd. Bullshit or not, you are addressing nothing. All you are doing is making assertions and conclusing your own meaning for Susskind from using a certain quote. All quotes of yours cannot stand in this ridiculous argument of yours because of other (equally valid source) contrary quotes. You are nowhere with this. In calling me fraud, is the deceitful and dishonest liar you ever are.
Mr. Parrot. What a gas, methane of course, from the mind/mouth/azz (same orifice) of stewpid... Amazing watching stewpid, a so called supporter of science and intellect degrade back into his natural condition... You better PM all your buddies to rescue you, you are sinking fast back into your own puddle...
Itâs true then, really doesn't matter what bait is used, even the "methane gas" smell of its own words feeds the ZZzzz Troll
I have given you quotes where he did say exactly what i said he said. Read the intro to his book. Understand science. there is a great deal of debate and work being done trying to explain the fine tuning. Again I have given quotes. But I am sure you will put your hands over your ears and say I can't hear you. Until you are willing to address the science. I will refrain from responding. for now let it be known that even though I expect you to lie, I will not respond.
Praise from Scientists for The Privileged Planet By Robert Crowther At the heart of the attacks on Iowa State University astronomer Guillermo Gonzalez is the book The Privileged Planet, which he co-authored with Jay Richards. We now know that Gonzalez's authorship of this book played a role in his denial of tenure. It also provoked more than 120 of Gonzalez's faculty colleagues to sign a petition in 2005 denouncing intelligent design and urging all other faculty members to do the same. Ironically, the book has garnered praise from an impressive list of scientists, including some prominent supporters of biological evolution. Consider just a few of The Privileged Planet's endorsements and ask yourself whether the ideas raised in this book presented any kind of valid reason for removing Gonzalez from his university: Is our universe a blind concatenation of atoms, evolution a random walk across a meaningless landscape, and our sense of purpose a pathetic shield against a supremely indifferent world? Or does the universe and our place within it click into place, repeatedly? These starkly different views open up immense metaphysical and theological questions, and at least part of the answer must come from science and the unfolding triumphs of cosmology, astronomy, and evolution. In a book of magnificent sweep and daring Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards drive home the arguments that the old cliché of no place like home is eerily true of Earth. Not only that, but if the scientific method was to emerge anywhere, the Earth is about as suitable as you can get. Gonzalez and Richards have flung down the gauntlet. Let the debate begin; it is a question that involves us all. Simon Conway Morris Professor of Evolutionary Paleobiology, University of Cambridge Author of Lifeâs Solution: Inevitable Humans in a Lonely Universe This thoughtful, delightfully contrarian book will rile up those who believe the âCopernican principleâ is an essential philosophical component of modern science. Is our universe designedly congenial to intelligent, observing life? Passionate advocates of the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) will find much to ponder in this carefully documented analysis. Owen Gingerich Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics Author of The Book Nobody Read: Chasing the Revolutions of Nicolaus Copernicus Not only have Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards written a book with a remarkable thesis, they have constructed their argument on an abundance of evidence and with a cautiousness of statement that make their volume even more remarkable. In my opinion, their Privileged Planet deserves very careful attention. Michael J. Crowe Cavanaugh Professor Emeritus at the University of Notre Dame Author of The Extraterrestrial Life Debate 1750-1900 Impressively researched and lucidly written, The Privileged Planet will surely rattle if not finally dislodge a pet assumption held by many interpreters of modern science: the so-called Copernican Principle (which isnât actually very Copernican!). But Gonzalez and Richardsâ argument, though controversial, is so carefully and moderately presented that any reasonable critique of it must itself address the astonishing evidence which has for so long somehow escaped our notice. I therefore expect this book to renewâand to raise to a new levelâthe whole scientific and philosophic debate about earthâs cosmic significance. It is a high class piece of work that deserves the widest possible audience. Dennis Danielson Professor of English, University of British Columbia Editor, The Book of the Cosmos: Imagining the Universe from Heraclitus to Hawking In this fascinating and highly original book, Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay Richards advance a persuasive argument, and marshal a wealth of diverse scientific evidence to justify that argument. In the process, they effectively challenge several popular assumptions, not only about the nature and history of science, but also about the nature and origin of the cosmos. The Privileged Planet will be impossible to ignore. It is likely to change the way we view both the scientific enterprise and the world around us. I recommend it highly. Philip Skell Evan Pugh Professor Emeritus of Physics, Pennsylvania State University Member, National Academy of Sciences This new book is an excellent and timely contribution to the broadening and increasingly important discussion of origins. Henry F. Schaefer III Graham Perdue Professor of Chemistry Director, Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry, University of Georgia Five-Time Nobel Prize Nominee
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/A_Bevy_Of_Exoplanets_Announced_999.html A Bevy Of Exoplanets Announced An artist's concept of the Neptune-sized planet GJ436b (right) orbiting an M dwarf star, Gliese 436, at a distance of only 3 million miles. With a density similar to that of Neptune, the exoplanet is an ice giant and probably has a rocky core and lots of water that forms ice in the interior under high pressure and temperature. GJ436b was discovered in 2004 by the California and Carnegie Planet Search team, and found by Belgian astronomer MichaÂE Gillon in May 2007 to transit its star. (Illustrations Copyright Lynnette Cook) by Robert Sanders Berkeley CA (SPX) May 30, 2007 The world's largest and most prolific team of planet hunters announced Monday, May 28, the discovery of 28 new planets outside our solar system, increasing to 236 the total number of known exoplanets. University of California, Berkeley, post-doctoral fellow Jason T. Wright and newly minted Ph.D. John Asher Johnson reported the new exoplanets at a media briefing at the semi-annual meeting of the American Astronomical Society (AAS) in Honolulu. The findings, also reported in poster sessions at the meeting, are a result of the combined work of the California and Carnegie Planet Search team and the Anglo-Australian Planet Search team. The planets are among 37 new objects - each orbiting a star, but smaller than a star -discovered by the teams within the past year. Seven of the 37 are confirmed brown dwarfs, which are failed stars that nevertheless are much more massive than the largest, Jupiter-sized planets. Two others are borderline and could be either large, gas giant planets or small brown dwarfs. Wright said the research teams have become much more sophisticated in their analyses of the stellar wobbles caused by orbiting planets, enabling them to detect the weaker wobbles caused by smaller planets as well as planets farther from their parent stars. "We've added 12 percent to the total in the last year, and we're very proud of that," said Wright of the 28 new exoplanets. "This provides new planetary systems so that we can study their properties as an ensemble." The California and Carnegie Planet Search team is headed by Geoffrey Marcy, professor of astronomy at UC Berkeley; Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution of Washington; Debra Fischer of San Francisco State University; and Steve Vogt, professor of astronomy at UC Santa Cruz. The Anglo-Australian Planet Search team is headed by Chris Tinney of the University of New South Wales and Hugh Jones of the University of Hertfordshire. They and colleagues Shannon Patel of UC Santa Cruz and Simon O'Toole of the Anglo-Australian Observatory have published their exoplanet results in papers over the past year, but the AAS meeting is the first time the teams have presented the past year's findings in their entirety. In addition to reporting 37 new substellar objects, Wright singled out an exoplanet discovered by their teams two years ago as "extraordinarily rich." Circling the star Gliese 436 (GJ 436), a red M dwarf only 30 light years from Earth, was an ice-giant planet the teams calculated to be at least 22 Earth masses, slightly larger than the mass of Neptune (17 Earth masses). After the discovery in 2004 and publication of the exoplanet's orbit earlier this year, a Belgian astronomer, Michael Gillon at Liege University, observed the planet crossing in front of the star - the first Neptune-sized planet observed to transit a star. Gillon and colleagues reported two weeks ago how this transiting planet allowed them to precisely pin down the mass, 22.4 Earth masses, and to calculate the planet's radius and density, which turns out to be similar to Neptune's. "From the density of two grams per cubic centimeter - twice that of water - it must be 50 percent rock and about 50 percent water, with perhaps small amounts of hydrogen and helium," Marcy said. "So this planet has the interior structure of a hybrid super-Earth/Neptune, with a rocky core surrounded by a significant amount of water compressed into solid form at high pressures and temperatures." Its short, 2.6-day orbit around Gliese 436 means the exoplanet is very close to the star - only 3 percent of the sun-Earth distance - making it a hot Neptune, Wright said. It also has an eccentric orbit, not a circular orbit like most giant planets found orbiting close to their parent stars. This orbit, in fact, suggests that the star may have another planetary companion in a more distant orbit. "I'm sure people will immediately follow up and try to measure the atmospheric composition of this planet." Wright predicted. Also among the 28 new exoplanets are at least four new multiple-planet systems, plus three stars that probably contain a brown dwarf as well as a planet. Wright said that at least 30 percent of all stars known to have planets have more than one. Because smaller planets and outer planets of a star are harder to detect, he predicts that the percentage will continue to rise as detection methods improve. "We're just now getting to the point where, if we were observing our own solar system from afar, we would be seeing Jupiter," he said, pointing out that the teams' Doppler technique is now sensitive to stellar wobbles of a meter per second, much less than the 10-meter per second limit they started out with 15 years ago. Wright keeps track of all known exoplanets for the California and Carnegie Planet Search team's Web site, which hosts the only peer-reviewed catalog of exoplanets within 200 parsecs (652 light years) of Earth. This includes "everything that is close enough to study and possibly follow up with imaging," he said. Three of the newly reported planets are around large stars between 1.6 and 1.9 times the mass of our sun. Johnson has focused on exoplanets around massive stars, known as A and F stars, which have masses between 1.5 and 2.5 solar masses. Planets around these massive stars are normally very hard to detect because they typically rotate fast and have pulsating atmospheres, traits that can hide or mimic the signal from an orbiting planet. He discovered, however, that cooler "retired" A stars - "subgiant" stars that have nearly completed hydrogen burning and have stabilized for a short period of time - are quiet enough to make planet-caused wobbles detectable. So far, Johnson has tracked down six previously discovered exoplanets around retired A stars, and by combining this set with the three newly discovered exoplanets, has been able to draw preliminary conclusions. For one, planets around more massive stars seem to be farther from their host stars, Johnson said. "Only one of the 9 planets is within 1 AU (astronomical unit, or 93 million miles), and none of them is within 0.8 AU, of their host stars, which is very different than the distribution around sun-like stars," he said, noting that many sun-like stars harbor hot gas giants that whip around their host stars in two to 100 days. Even though short-period planets are easier to detect, no such planets have been detected orbiting retired A stars, whose typical planets have an orbital distance about equal to Earth's orbit or greater, with an orbital period of a few years. Based on the results of his search for planets around retired A stars, Johnson has discovered that massive stars are more likely to harbor Jupiter-sized planets than are lower-mass stars. The chance of having a Jupiter-like, giant planet orbiting within 2 AU is 8.7 percent for stars between 1.3 and 2 solar masses, versus 4 percent for sun-like stars with masses ranging from 0.7 solar masses to 1.3 solar masses, and 1.2 percent for M stars with less than 0.7 solar masses. As would be expected from the core accretion model of planet formation, large planets are more often observed around massive stars, probably because these stars start out with more material in their disks during the early formation period. Johnson will continue to focus on retired A stars, 450 of which have been added to the teams' target list. As more planets are discovered around subgiants, it should become clearer whether larger orbits are "a result of different formation and migration mechanisms in the disks of A-type stars, or simply a consequence of the small number of massive subgiants currently surveyed," he and colleagues wrote in a paper submitted in April to the Astrophysical Journal. The California and Carnegie Planet Search team uses telescopes at the University of California's Lick Observatory and the W. M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii. The Anglo-Australian Planet Search team uses the Anglo-Australian Observatory. Together, these teams have discovered more than half of all known exoplanets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_c Gliese 581 c (IPA: [ˈgli¢°zə]) is a "super-earth" extrasolar planet orbiting the red dwarf star Gliese 581.[3] It appears to be the first extrasolar planet discovered in the hypothetical habitable zone surrounding its star, where surface temperatures might maintain liquid water[3][4] and therefore be suitable for life as known on Earth. The planet is astronomically close, at 20.5 light years (194 trillion km or 120 trillion miles) from Earth in the direction of the constellation of Libra.[2] Its star is identified as Gliese 581 by its number in the Gliese Catalogue of Nearby Stars; with respect to Earth it is the 87th closest star system.[5] Gliese 581 c is the first extrasolar planet believed to have a surface temperature similar to that of Earth. It is the smallest extrasolar planet around a main sequence star discovered to date.[3] ... continued http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_581_c
now if someone would develop a warp drive. finding all these planets must be torturing some of these scientists.