No. I am not avoiding this question. I am willing to explain how something could be designed but have no designer. Jesus
fun... but beyond semantics, that's what is also referred to as self-organizing systems etc... doesn't involve a designer anyway, as i said, am outta here.............
yes, fun for some, frustrating for others. it's more fun when one is simply interested in truth. defenses against the truth are frustrating. as a rule of thumb, any defense that would maintain this design as real, will find the semantics inexcusable and intolerable. Jesus
Allow me to use a parable to facilitate an understanding. You may have heard tale of magicians who can "create" an "egregore" to handle a particular task or function. Having completed it's mission, the egregore is "banished" back to nothingness. Otherwise, it will tend to get into mischief, grow stronger, do whatever it takes to survive, etc. Whether you believe this is possible or not, you are right. Similarly, the Son of God thought to make an egregore to explore all the permutations of the idea of separation. Not being a valid idea, the egregore makes time, and yet is suspicious it is living on borrowed time. It spends all it's energy devising ways to extend it's life. Deception is it's stock in trade, and if the magician wishes to explore the egregore's world, he must deceive himself first. The magician, powerful beyond limit, then underestimates the sheer ingenious audacity of his "creation", get's hooked, and very nearly destroys himself. Time, in this design, is holographic...not linear. It is a closed system. And within time, all permutations of the original "spell" of separation and guilt are explored first in consciousness. As such, you have an "apple" into which the magician can worm his way through, picking and choosing his experiences - yet all of them relative to the theme of separation and guilt, and how that plays out. All possibilities are there for him to explore, but nothing is "new under the sun" while he explores. All his moves are pre-thought, pre-determined, pre-programmed. Thus, he thinks he has choice, but really has no choice within the holographic apple. He can seek to improve his circumstances, but always at the expense of sacrificing something of himself...his money, his identity, his health, his life...ect. The only choice he really has is to exit the holographic apple of time and space. It is done by "banishing" the "spell" that made the egregore in the first place. He must destabilize it by questioning it's foundation, and denying it's reality. He must realize it is he who made the designer and it's apple. He must put cause and effect back in order. He must undeceive himself by assuming the truth about himself...and see things as they are. In the process of undoing the spell, the magician will needs use true "spells" to train his mind. Such a spell might look like: "I am as God created me". Gradually, he metamorphs back to his original condition, only to find he never really changed. Withdrawing faith from it, the apple vanishes. This is to say: You are the maker. Whether you believe this is possible or not, you are right. Jesus
TraderNik: No. TraderNik: Why is it important for you to know what I BELIEVE? What's important in science is not what one believes but what one HYPOTHESIZES based on empirical data. I hypothesize that the first cells on this planet were products of advanced bioengineering. The scientific method can be used to determine what data supports the hypothesis and what data counts against it. The scientific method can't help us determine whether the bioengineers were natural or supernatural. TraderNic: Who said that? Not me. See above. Bioengineering requires bioengineers. Just not supernatural ones.
of course, faith in one-self... a noble endeavour, helping "others" reclaim that... then only can the "self" be let go again...
Superior intelligence to human beings. I have seen no human beings capable of creating life on earth or other planets by themselves.