Talk Talk Talk and appeal to authority (not surprising in someone with deeply held religious faith. As I have said, if you have a gut feeling that the trees were created by God, by all means go ahead and try to provide us with even ONE SHRED OF PROOF Until then it will all be talk talk talk.
Good luck you guys. You can see by this question the exact nature of the kind of mind you are dealing with. Is there any point in continuing this?
The two posts by tradernik above are perhaps the most ignorant posts imaginable. One illustrates the foolish ways of taking something out of context and one illustrates the pride of the anti religious crowd. At least two of my authorities are athiest. I feel comfortable citing to authority when there is absence of a controlling statute. You are right I have no problem citing Noble Prize winning physicists on this subject. Howerver this does not come from my deeply held religious convictions. It comes form my deeply ingrained sense of jurisprudence and academic training.
lol... yes, your academic training. You are apparently very learned. Where'd you get your LL.B, out of a Shreddies box? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism Try spell check next time, counsellor. over and out.. good luck kjkent1, jb, 2c, et. al, if you continue to grace these fanatics with your presence.
now after creating the most embarasing posts in ET history this troll resorts to spell checking arguments. he jerkoff why dont you do a search and see how many hundreds of times I spelled it correctly. By the way I use firefox and the spell checker and editor do not interface well with ET.
What the hell are you talking about? I've been using Firefox for 3 years and the interface with ET is seamless. Wow... that is actually embarrassing. Sorry you felt the need to stoop to this level, trying a bogus lie that half the members here will know is a lie because they too use FF. I just reviewed a bunch of your posts and they are rife with spelling and grammatical errors. Would you like me to post some of them here for everyone to see? No? Right, I didn't think so. I would suggest that you might want to avoid Hold-Em. You apparently don't know when to fold a losing hand.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I couldn't make this up if I tried. Remind me not to consider your alma mater (Shreddies U?) for my kids. Stop for the day, man. Try again tomorrow. You're out of control
Doesn't matter what things seem like -- it matters how they are actually measured -- and they don't measure any intelligent designer, other than ourselves. Until this circumstance changes, there's no designer.
...just insult me in passing and then appeal to authority. Rather than engage you at all, I will just provide a link to the most recent Leonard Susskind lecture on the anthropic principle and string theory (June 06), and allow everyone to decide whether or not jem's appeal to authority is warranted or not. http://www.nyas.org/publications/readersReport.asp?articleID=48
Doesn't matter what things actually seem like, what matters is we dogmatically accept the limited science that we have at a particular time... Uhhh, classic... No designer, just like there were no X-Rays and Gamma rays before the were "discovered..." Uhhh, classic... But of course we "should" believe in life springing from nothing with no causation, and the entire universe coming into being from nothing with no knowledge of causation... Seriously, just applying some common sense, do you realize how stupid that sounds?