Indicators are liars! Support and Resistance Trading for the S&P emini

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by ESResistance, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. So simple . . . so accurate . . . so logical . . . so difficult to trust and believe.
     
    #441     Sep 30, 2008
  2. Just to follow on ....

    You would expect yesterday's sell-off given the circumstances, to trigger an equivalent run at the bid.

    Big as it was, it was not even the biggest run-off in the last five days at the bid.

    All adds up to a story that is not even paralleling the news.

    regards
    f9
     
    #442     Sep 30, 2008
  3. there is lower bid and ask. Can't this be attributed to the lack of full hedging as financials not shortable.
     
    #443     Sep 30, 2008
  4. Sorry V3 I cannot help you with that one as it does'nt come up on my radar.

    All I am interested in are comparative ratios.
    Absolute figures are apt to create false comparisons in my world.

    regards
    f9
     
    #444     Sep 30, 2008
  5. To clarify, you are saying that the runup on late Friday had very poor liquidity and that the bull run into the close had very little substance behind it.

    I happened to be long TY bonds on Friday afternoon and was dissapointed to see them sell off into the close... I was then shocked to see the skyrocketing of bonds on Monday.

    Thanks for sharing your insights on the b/a.
     
    #445     Sep 30, 2008
  6. Sorry V3 I have just seen this post.

    I think that there are several offering volume at bid and ask .....NT, TS multi, ensign and few more, the names elude me in this moment.

    Once you have the two numbers you can play around with them to suit.

    regards
    f9
     
    #446     Sep 30, 2008
  7. My only intraday interest is ES and I don't worry too much about liquidity as it is more than I need.

    I can only cope with so much info at my age and so it goes into two buckets.

    ... what I need
    ... what holds an interest to me.

    I work hard at keeping them separate.

    regards
    f9
     
    #447     Sep 30, 2008
  8. Hi f9

    I am in the process of testing a bid ask tool. Looks promising, just need more practice in being able to read it, looks like it could be a nice little extra tweak for my method.

    If any of you guys that are knowledgable in the use of this data want to post thoughts, opinions and links to information on this feel free.
     
    #448     Sep 30, 2008
  9. I don't think that there is very much in the way of technicals to offer.
    Bid-ask is only one part of the story and like lots of things works best in bigger frames.

    It is important to have order flow running in the back of your mind and to know just what is reasonable.

    ie can 2,000 contracts lift price through say 8 tics and hold it there or is it a short setup.

    It all becomes habit after a while like a second language

    regards
    f9
     
    #449     Sep 30, 2008
  10. Hello f9,

    I was curious about something and I was thinking of PM'ing, but I guess here is a good place to ask. I've read many of your posts and sought them out since you seem like someone who is very successful in a style of trading I would like to master myself.

    Anyway I was wondering what you set for yourself as a daily tick goal. I know this may seem like a superficial question, but I've read posts about how long you trade each morning, about your stop size, and about your expected risk:reward per trade, but I've never seen you mention your tick goal, and this relates to how many trading opportunities you expect to see in your trading sessions. If this is something you prefer not to reveal, I understand.

    Thank you for your posts here and in other threads, and good luck in your trading.
     
    #450     Sep 30, 2008
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