Index futures automation

Discussion in 'Journals' started by hilmy83, Jul 3, 2022.

Can a fully automated trading strategy work in the long run?

  1. YES!

    56 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Hell naw.

    15 vote(s)
    17.9%
  3. I don't know, I got my own trading to worry about.

    13 vote(s)
    15.5%
  1. Overnight

    Overnight

    So you are trading what has essentially been called a possible spaceship from another galaxy...

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    Oumuamua.
     
    #81     Nov 4, 2022
  2. Why are you trading the same instrument/contract in 2 different expiration dates ?
    For diversification purposes, why not look at MBT, MZN, MZB, M6E ?
     
    #82     Nov 4, 2022
  3. Overnight

    Overnight

    Maybe he is working a calendar spread? Those things exist. And they exist very severely.
     
    #83     Nov 4, 2022
  4. That’s indeed interesting. I talked to a guy a few years ago who also was running either a semi-automated or fully automated strategy and he also said that he was able to exploit NQ, but broke even on ES with the same strategy.

    ES is on average more noisy and mean-reverting than NQ which exhibit more momentum moves on average.

    Anyway, nice journal and progress.
     
    #84     Nov 4, 2022
  5. So the same strategy applied to NQ and ES must have different parameters for each to control losses and take profits. The entry logic for the most part stays the same.
    So here are the results of my Algos in SIM trading mode for 11/4:
    MES-Renky +254 72% win 29 trades
    MNQ-OBV +20 38% win 32 trades
    M2K-OBV +130 58% win 12 trades
    MYM-Renky +397 87% win 31 trades
    MCL-Renky +139 71% win 14 trades
    MBT-Renky +455 81% win 21 trades
    MYM-Abby +276 83% win 48 trades
    ----------------------------------------------------
    Totals +1671 gross 187 trades
    Commish 281; 17% of gross profit
    +1390 net profit
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2022
    #85     Nov 4, 2022
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  6. hilmy83

    hilmy83

    I'm not trading different calendar contracts. Quant analyzer just summarize the performance across previous traded contracts.

    The strategy I trade can't be traded on slow moving markets you posted. The only other markets that I can trade this is on individual stocks. Has to be volatile with decent liquidity to avoid too much slippage.
     
    #86     Nov 10, 2022
  7. hilmy83

    hilmy83

    interesting pop tonite

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    #87     Nov 11, 2022
  8. There is definitely a need for the ranking of volatility for the EMini's and EMicro's.
    BTC and MBT are likely the most volatile.
     
    #88     Nov 11, 2022
  9. hilmy83

    hilmy83

    Finally broke out of the 21 days DD

    November starting out smooth so far. CL has been a good addition. MES still flatlining

    Stats reverting back to 60% win rate, avg win/avg loss is 0.78. With +300 trades, this seems like a baseline.

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    Last edited: Nov 11, 2022
    #89     Nov 11, 2022
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  10. Equity curves still show sharp retracements.
    Have you considered employing daily stop loss rules ?
    Also, you need to show/track win rate %.
     
    #90     Nov 11, 2022