Increases in CO2 - Causes Cooling

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jul 12, 2014.

  1. Why do keep trotting out this list of right wing engineers? They are NOT climate scientists and anyhow they do not reject man made global warming.

    Jem, here the science proving man's release of CO2 causes temps to rise. Are you ready? Here it is.

    CO2 is a GHG.

    Got it?

    LOL you are such a knucklehead. ...................I mean lying sack of shit.



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    #331     Aug 1, 2014
  2. Ah ha! Jerm was raised close to main road before lead was banned!

    Or maybe it was the paint chips.
     
    #332     Aug 1, 2014
  3. jem

    jem

    First of all some of them are rocket scientists and they were backed by science... see the fourth entry below.
    Secondly... how do you know they are all right wing.
    Third - some of best climatologists are engineers... it does not take much to be a "climatologist".
    Fourth - Right after they got rid of the agw nutter who was embarrassing them... they put out the science showing CO2 is also a coolant.

    http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber/

    Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
    “Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
    That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
    “The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
    For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.


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    #333     Aug 1, 2014
  4. OOOOO ROCKET SCIENTISTS !!!!!

    The important thing is that 97% of the world's climate scientists understand something you jerm do not.


    CO2 is a GHG

    Amazing that you still can't understand this.


    I wonder why?
     
    #334     Aug 1, 2014
  5. jem

    jem

    you have that wrong..

    of the 11000 papers only 41 said man was causing warming.
    and of those papers the ones I read all relied of failed models.

    so in reality its only .03% of the papers and I have provided a peer reviewed paper to prove that number. there is a whole thread on it.

    .03% not 97%.
     
    #335     Aug 1, 2014
  6. So what? Most papers agreeing with AGW will not expressly state so. It is now a given in climate science. We went through this how many times?

    What's more telling is this...

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    So really, it's more than 97%. 97% is a conservative estimate.
     
    #336     Aug 1, 2014
  7. jem

    jem

    I went through his list

    here is the page with the list... why don't you pick 100 papers which support the idea that man made co2 causes warming.
    how about 10. we can read them and see if they have science or failed models.

    You won't because you are completely full of shit.
    Most of these papers have nothing to do with the idea that man made co2 causes warming.

    here is the first 50... from the list...

    http://jamespowell.org/DIY/diy.html


    A 45-year time series of dune mobility indicating constant windiness over the central Sahara
    A Case of Severe Neurotoxicity Associated With Exposure to 1-Bromopropane, an Alternative to Ozone-Depleting or Global-Warming Solvents
    A molybdenum isotope record of Eocene Thermal Maximum 2: Implications for global ocean redox during the early Eocene
    A MULTINATIONAL COURSE ON GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE
    A new foliicolous Fellhaneropsis (Pilocarpaceae) from the Netherlands
    A New Look at Solar Irradiance Variation
    A new targeting method for combined heat, power and desalinated water production in total site
    A new time series vegetation-water index of phenological-hydrological trait across species and functional types for Poyang Lake wetland ecosystem
    A physiological trait-based approach to predicting the responses of species to experimental climate warming
    A protective coat of microorganisms on macroalgae: inhibitory effects of bacterial biofilms and epibiotic microbial assemblages on barnacle attachment
    A SAFT equation of state for the quaternary H2S-CO2-H2O-NaCl system
    A step-response approach for predicting and understanding non-linear precipitation changes
    A study of surface humidity changes in china during the recent 50 years
    Abundance and community structure of ammonia oxidizing bacteria and archaea in a Sweden boreal forest soil under 19-year fertilization and 12-year warming
    Actinobacterial Nitrate Reducers and Proteobacterial Denitrifiers Are Abundant in N2O-Metabolizing Palsa Peat
    Active gas migration systems offshore northern Israel, first evidence from seafloor and subsurface data
    Aerial Photographs Reveal Late-20th-Century Dynamic Ice Loss in Northwestern Greenland
    Aerosol retrievals from channel-1 and -2 AVHRR radiances: Long-term trends updated and revisited
    Agroforestry for biomass production and carbon sequestration: an overview
    Air-Water Fluxes of N2O and CH4 during Microalgae (Staurosira sp.) Cultivation in an Open Raceway Pond
    Albedo enhancement over land to counteract global warming: impacts on hydrological cycle
    Altitudinal variation in leaf construction cost and energy content of Bergenia purpurascens
    Amazon's vulnerability to climate change heightened by deforestation and man-made dispersal barriers
    An analysis of global warming in the Alpine region based on nonlinear nonstationary time series models
    An Ecological Compass for Planetary Engineering
    An energy-aware dynamic RWA framework for next-generation wavelength-routed networks
    An experimental evaluation of the greenhouse effect in the substitution of R134a with CO2
    An impact analysis of landfill for waste disposal on climate change: Case study of 'Sudokwon Landfill Site 2nd Landfill' in Korea
    An integrated and transferable climate change vulnerability assessment for regional application
    An integrated stratigraphic record of the Palaeocene-lower Eocene at Gubbio (Italy): new insights into the early Palaeogene hyperthermals and carbon isotope excursions
    An investigation of green energy policy and its university-level engineering education in Taiwan
    An investigation of trends in precipitation volume for the last three decades in different regions of Fars province, Iran
    Analysis of mono-sugars obtained by acid hydrolysis of algae-based polysaccharides
    Analysis of Spatial Smoothing Effect of Short-Term Fluctuation of Global Solar Radiation Based on Data Including Quantization Error
    Analyzing the individual and social rights condition of climate refugees from the international environmental law perspective
    ANTARCTIC GLOSSOPTERID DIVERSITY ON A LOCAL SCALE: THE PRESENCE OF MULTIPLE MEGASPOROPHYLL GENERA, UPPER PERMIAN, MT. ACHERNAR, TRANSANTARCTIC MOUNTAINS, ANTARCTICA
    Ants on a mountain: spatial, environmental and habitat associations along an altitudinal transect in a centre of endemism
    Application of a robust experimental method to study soil warming effects on oilseed rape
    Application of Bacteria Foraging Strategy with Constraint Satisfaction Technique for Emission and Economic Dispatch Problems
    Application of probability distributions to the modeling of biogenic CO2 fluxes in life cycle assessment
    Are responses of herbivores to environmental variability spatially consistent in alpine ecosystems?
    Are there any circumstances in which logging primary wet-eucalypt forest will not add to the global carbon burden?
    Assessing Coral Reefs on a Pacific-Wide Scale Using the Microbialization Score
    Assessing the effects of climate change on the distribution of pulmonate freshwater snail biodiversity
    Assessment of Environmental Impacts of an Aging and Stagnating Water Supply Pipeline Network City of Oslo, 1991-2006
    Assessment of global warming on the island of Tenerife, Canary Islands (Spain). Trends in minimum, maximum and mean temperatures since 1944
    Atmospheric corrosion of metals in 2010-2039 and 2070-2099
    Atmospheric impact on the northwestern Pacific under a global warming scenario
    Behavioral adjustments of a pipefish to bacterial Vibrio challenge
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    but... Here is a list of

    1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarmism

    http://www.populartechnology.net/200...upporting.html
     
    #337     Aug 1, 2014
  8. So jem, easy question. Do you think it is 0.03% of climate scientists that believe in AGW? I'm trying to gauge just how fucked up you are.
     
    #338     Aug 1, 2014
  9. So let's restate this. Of over 9000 authors of climate papers only one rejected AGW.

    What is that? 0.03% LOL
     
    #339     Aug 1, 2014
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Since it is apparent you have problems with math...
    41 of the 11000 papers stated that man causes warming.

    0.0372%
     
    #340     Aug 1, 2014