incel danielson brings bear spray to a gunfight.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by destriero, Aug 31, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Suspect and shooting victim identified...

    Suspect in deadly Portland shooting describes himself as '100% ANTIFA,' was recently cited for a gun charge but never prosecuted
    https://www.theblaze.com/news/suspect-portland-shooting-antifa-gun-charge

    The suspect being investigated by police for allegedly shooting and killing a Trump supporter in downtown Portland, Oregon, on Saturday recently posted on social media saying that he is "100% ANTIFA" and "willing to fight" in the "war."

    He was also reportedly cited for carrying a loaded gun downtown and interfering with police in July, but was never prosecuted.

    Police sources confirmed to the Oregonian that 48-year-old Michael Forest Reinoehl is now the prime suspect in the fatal shooting of Aaron Danielson, a supporter of the conservative "Patriot Prayer" group who was part of caravan of Trump supporters who flooded downtown Portland Saturday in protest of the ongoing riots in the city.

    Social media posts
    As shown by videos and images on his Instagram feed, Reinoehl has been a regular participant in protests and riots in the city since the death of George Floyd in late May.

    On his Instagram, Reinoehl also routinely shared troubling messages in support of the Black Lives Matter protests, including a June message in which he described himself as a member of Antifa fighting in a "war" where "there will be casualties."

    "Every Revolution needs people that are willing and ready to fight," Reinoehl wrote. "There are so many of us protesters that are just protesting without a clue of where that will lead. That's just the beginning that's where the fight starts. If that's as far as you can take it thank you for your participation but please stand aside and support the ones that are willing to fight. I am 100% ANTIFA all the way! I am willing to fight for my brothers and sisters!" (emphasis mine)

    "It will be a war and like all wars there will be casualties," he added.

    In other posts on his Instagram, Reinoehl called for the defunding of police, said "F**k Donald Trump" and used hashtags such as "#anewnation."

    Previous run-ins with the law
    Reinoehl had previously been cited for allegedly carrying a loaded gun and interfering with police during downtown protests in July, but was never prosecuted and never spent any time in jail.

    Here's more on the July citation from the Oregonian:

    On July 5 at one of the demonstrations, Reinoehl was cited at 2:10 a.m. in the 700 block of Southwest Main Street on allegations of possessing a loaded gun in a public place, resisting arrest and interfering with police.

    He was given a date to appear in court later that month, but the allegations were dropped on July 30 with a "no complaint," according to court records. The documents don't indicate why prosecutors decided not to pursue the accusations. Reinoehl spent no time behind bars.
    That was not the first time that Reinoehl had been in trouble with the law.

    Shortly before he started attending the protests, he was stopped while driving with his 11-year-old daughter, and in the car police found "found marijuana, 'unidentified prescription pills,' and a loaded Glock pistol for which [he] didn't have a concealed handgun license," the Oregonian reported.

    Anything else?
    Reinoehl was reportedly identified due to the distinctive "black power" fist tattoo he has on his neck that was evident in video images posted of the shooting.

    His 36-year-old sister, who chose to remain anonymous, told the outlet that she was awakened early Sunday morning by a threatening phone call from someone who said that "our family was in danger unless we turned him over."

    Once she saw the screenshots of the suspect, she reportedly confirmed to authorities that it was her brother.

    Reinoehl, a father of two, has allegedly been estranged from his family for several years.

    "On the one hand, this whole thing surprises the daylights out of us, because we always thought he is a lot of bark, not a lot of bite," she told the news outlet. "But he's also been very impulsive and irrational."

    The investigation into the shooting is still under way, and no charges have been formally announced.
     
    #11     Aug 31, 2020
  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    "The grainy video and other photos, together with witness statements from live streamer Justin Dunlap, suggest the victim may have used some type of mace or pepper spray and then collapsed after gunshots ring out."

    And the loud fucking hiss on the audio.



    I know you want to marinade the attacker a little longer as an unprovoked killer but we have enough to start with, yeah, probably provoked alright but other evidence may surface.

    Hiss, bang bang.
     
    #12     Aug 31, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I am willing to wait of proper video rather than claims about audio before making any conclusions.

    Clearly the social media posts by the suspect and previous charges show he is a violent promoter of ANTIFA.
     
    #13     Aug 31, 2020
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I'm not only willing, I don't have a choice but your anti-antifa bias is clouding your judgement.

    Even if it was the patriot prayer fascist (membership confirmed yet?) shooting I would expect there to be an action and reaction.

    You would do well to spend more time getting under the skin of Patriot Prayer etc. I spent a little while burrowing around their and other similar groups interwebs last year when a family member came under online fire running for office because his wife is black.

    Focus on the cause, not the reaction. Fascism has a plan for America.
     
    #14     Aug 31, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Just for the record -- I view groups like Patriot Prayer just as distastefully as I view ANTIFA. Violent groups on both sides of the spectrum are the problem.

    BTW -- the victim is confirmed as a member of Patriot Prayer.
    Patriot Prayer founder: Man shot, killed in Portland was a supporter
    https://katu.com/news/local/patriot-prayer-founder-man-shot-killed-in-portland-was-a-supporter
     
    #15     Aug 31, 2020
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  6. destriero

    destriero


    Yes, please let us know what decision you make!
     
    #16     Aug 31, 2020
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I don't like either however I needed to understand lots of national, local, tribal etc. groups in my AP work. You have to dig into both sides.

    For the record I believe antifa is an inevitable reaction to fa, I give them leeway for this reason but I don't like the problem solving approach.

    They lost in history too many times already at the beginning of the slide into fascism.
     
    #17     Aug 31, 2020
  8. gaussian

    gaussian

    The beautiful thing about the internet is you can make up whatever you want to justify your slanted analysis.
     
    #18     Aug 31, 2020
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    Old news, the autists at 4chan outed him within an hour.

    Was dude using a deringer? Holy smoke Batman
     
    #19     Aug 31, 2020
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    You may and I'm sure you do, I can only say what I believe to be true. I was raised right.

    Its a question for your parents to answer why you are so "flexible" shall we call it?

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...-the-next-targets.312278/page-11#post-5133850

    Its easier to remember the truth than lies.
     
    #20     Aug 31, 2020