IN THIS THREAD: IronFist learns (the elusive) PRICE ACTION

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by IronFist, Dec 2, 2008.

  1. achilles28

    achilles28

    Ironfist,

    I think you're confused.

    In the diagram, you've got lows marked as "lower highs", or "LH".

    Dips in an uptrend are higher lows.

    Pull backs in a downtrend are lower highs.

    For instance, in diagram 1, the first pull back in the uptrend is a higher low.

    It is marked as a lower high, which it is not.
     
    #461     Dec 23, 2008
  2. Yes, he made a mistake on that one. Anyways IF there is no right answer to your question. You must define trend for yourself, in the time frame that you choose. One mans trend is another mans retracement, is just chop to someone else....its subjective. i would still encourage you to identify one aspect of PA and focus in on that.

    Some people define trend using sucessful retracements, some use points, some use time...I prefer to idnetify trend by how it reacts at major and minor s/r levels.
     
    #462     Dec 23, 2008
  3. Selling this pop here as i mentioned last night 10.30 could reverse here
     
    #463     Dec 23, 2008
  4. this position is now in profit and there is some resistance up here-for now.I am intending to hold until 12.30 (the next reversal zone)The predicted pattern shows the biggest move is between these 2 time zones today.
    If this goes the way i expect i wouldn't be surprised if we go in the red
     
    #464     Dec 23, 2008
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    Post deleted due to complaint.
     
    #465     Dec 23, 2008
  6. IF, at this point, you need to work on demo trading. Place some trades at what you believe is a setup for example in ninja trader.

    See over time for a few months if you can begin to get profitable demo trading before you risk any real money.

    I keep feeling maybe I am wrong that you think if you understand everything correctly, you will have a winning trade.

    In real life what happens is that you will have a probability of success of a trade turning into a winning trade.

    Once you have that probability, you need to determine success by how much profit vs loss you risk on the trade. For example, if you have a low win %, you will need to stay in the trade longer to achieve a higher level of profit. If you have a high win%, you can take profit quicker.

    For example, lets say you style is scalping and you have a 80% win ratio. You can then actually take stop losses farther away than your win profit target.

    However, let's say your swing or position trading, you may need to take more stops at lower amounts, to let your profits ride.

    Finally, you need to have enough money to be able to trade.
     
    #466     Dec 23, 2008

  7. In the spirit of Livermore i am 'sitting tight' as we make new lows towards 12.30. In terms of price action the bulls got trapped and we are now seeing capitulation .Remember,doing nothing is a position;regardless of whether or not you have a trade on.
     
    #467     Dec 23, 2008
  8. Mustn't be greedy i am out now and will look to short around 870 872 - i can sense the turn may be coming 15 minutes early.If it carries on down ,no need to chase it,i made good money so far.
     
    #468     Dec 23, 2008
  9. oops, yeah i messed up the label on that chart.

    you guys still know what i meant tho.

    Mandlebrotset, why are you still in this thread if all you're going to do is say how bad my charts are and how much I suck? I already know I suck at PA trading; I don't need your constant reminders :confused:
     
    #469     Dec 23, 2008
  10. nkhoi

    nkhoi

    it mades him feel better about himself.
     
    #470     Dec 23, 2008