In the money Calendar Spread

Discussion in 'Options' started by jdoucet, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. spindr0

    spindr0

    Quote from EliotHosewater:

    "Why not do the put calendar above and the call calendar below the current price? A couple of quick checks on TOS shows that the cost about the same and the risk graphs appear to be identical, at least for the first expiration. Then if the stock moves up your call are still ITM and if it moves down your puts are ITM. You might even be able to roll into a diagonal."

    Yes, in a fair priced market, the risk graphs will be the same.

    There are two problems with ITM "guts" strangles (short ITM put and short ITM call):

    1) You are likely to incur more commissions since at least one and possibly two of the ITM's will have to be closed.

    With the OTM calendar pair, if the underlying stays within the range, both short legs will expire if you're holding until expiration.

    2) If you're trading news events such as earnings that will have overnight IV contraction, the short ITM's may go to parity and then you face early exercise. Again, even more commissions as well as capital tied up due to an opening and a closing stock transactions.

    The KISS technique applies here :->)
     
    #31     Sep 23, 2006
  2. That just proves why one should never try to devise option strategies with a hangover.
     
    #32     Sep 23, 2006
  3. A long calendar (short near month, debit) has long vega, so how will it profit from an IV collapse?

    Ursa..
     
    #33     Oct 10, 2006
  4. The proviso was to ratio more short legs than long legs. The assumption being that IV in reporting month implodes matched by a much smaller reduction in back month IV.

    If the underlying gaps from the event (earnings) this could be problematic for the proposed position :D
     
    #34     Oct 10, 2006
  5. billp

    billp

    Sorry. Newb question here. What is legs? Thanks

     
    #35     Oct 10, 2006
  6. If you're trading spreads, there will be two or more legs that make up the spread.

    A vertical has two legs (a short leg and a long leg)
    A calendar has two legs (a short leg and a long leg)
    A butterfly has three legs etc.

    In the foregoing example, the suggestion was to have more options in the short leg than in the long leg.
     
    #36     Oct 10, 2006
  7. billp

    billp

    Thanks. Got it :)

     
    #37     Oct 10, 2006
  8. tower

    tower

    This is a theta trade that can work well in flat market.

    Your exposure isn't getting the V (Oct) called away but rather if the stock (or futures) move far from your strike. Your max profit for the spread will be if V settles at your strike. Your window of profit (the distance from your strike - either way) will narrow over time.

    You probably should consider calculating these ranges prior to putting on the trade.
     
    #38     Oct 14, 2006