In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

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  1. Tsing Tao

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    #881     Sep 9, 2020
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Sweden had a "Lockdown Lite" (they coined it as such) but not a full Lockdown. Regardless, the initial argument was that the reason why they only had a "Lockdown Lite" was to prevent destroying their economy.

    Guess what, that didn't work and their GDP did suffer and their economy did suffer as if they had a full Lockdown.

    Yet, to say Sweden did not have a Lockdown is just FALSE.



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    #882     Sep 9, 2020
  3. traderob

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    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/wo...w/news-story/a255817a6c28dfb2a4b0e543d40bb541
    Sweden ‘vindicated’ as Covid cases hit new low

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    • By Oliver Moody
    • The Times
    • 2 hours ago September 10, 2020

    Sweden has registered its lowest rate of positive coronavirus tests yet even after its testing regime was expanded to record levels in what one health official said was a vindication of its relatively non-intrusive Covid-19 strategy.

    Over the past week the country carried out more than 120,000 tests, of which only 1.3 per cent identified the disease.

    At the height of the pandemic the proportion was 19 per cent.

    Johan Carlson, an epidemiologist and director of the public health agency, said that Swedes seemed to be benefiting from widespread immunity because of the decision not to order the population to stay at home during the first wave.

    “Our strategy was consistent and sustainable,” Professor Carlson said. “We probably have a lower risk of [the virus] spreading than other countries.”

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    In another striking illustration of the progress Sweden has made it is now recording fewer new cases per capita than Norway, which introduced one of Europe’s earliest lockdowns, for the first time since April.

    In Denmark, another Nordic country that initially seemed to have curbed Covid-19 through the imposition of tight restrictions, the infection rate has also risen much higher than the rate in Sweden.

    Denmark and Norway have also largely reopened their borders to Swedes, although some quarantine measures have been put back in place as coronavirus has flared up again in Norway.

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    At the start of the pandemic the authorities in Stockholm reasoned that the disease would be a long-term challenge and that it would be better to allow the population to develop immunity to it while trying to protect those most at risk.

    The government advised people to work from home where they could but left most of the country open, including bars, restaurants and schools for all except the oldest pupils.

    It also declined to recommend the use of masks in shops or on trains and buses, although it requires people to keep at least 1.5m apart in public.

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    In the early months many critics argued that this approach was recklessly laissez-faire.

    Some scientists predicted that as many as 180,000 people could die in a country of 10.2 million.

    Those estimates proved to be drastically overblown: up to now there have been 5,838 Covid-19 deaths. In per capita terms this is the fifth highest death rate in Europe, behind only Belgium, the UK, Spain and Italy, but it has also fallen substantially since the summer. Only seven people died with the disease in the past week.

    The government has also invested many more resources in testing, which had previously been limited to healthcare workers, risk groups and patients with the gravest symptoms.

    The country now carries out nearly three times as many tests each day as it did in early June. The guidelines vary between the different regions, with regular virus and antibody testing in hotspots such as Stockholm, the centre of the epidemic.

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    The country now offers coronavirus tests to anyone with apparent symptoms and has put in place a system to track down and test each infected patient’s contacts.

    The marked decline in the proportion of tests that are positive may partly reflect this broader testing strategy. In Germany, where testing has been extended to people returning from risk zones abroad, the level is as low as 0.7 per cent.

    The true extent of immunity remains difficult to gauge. Anders Tegnell, the state’s pugnacious chief epidemiologist, has claimed that up to 30 per cent of Swedes may by now have overcome the virus.

    Yet a recent paper in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine by two researchers based in the UK said that herd immunity – in which a clear majority of the population has some degree of resistance to the disease – was “nowhere in sight”.

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    #883     Sep 10, 2020
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  4. Buy1Sell2

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    Hear Hear!!
     
    #884     Sep 10, 2020
  5. wildchild

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    Sweden hits lowest rate of COVID-19 infections since pandemic began

    Yeap.

     
    #885     Sep 12, 2020
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  6. Tsing Tao

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    #886     Sep 14, 2020
  7. Buy1Sell2

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    I've noticed that Leftists are not posting regularly anymore to Sweden threads.----hmmmm
     
    #887     Sep 15, 2020
  8. gwb-trading

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    ‘But What about Sweden?’ Well, Let’s Take a Look over There . . .
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/but-what-about-sweden-well-lets-take-a-look-over-there/

    When you write a piece like the one I did on the home page today, you inevitably are greeted by a cavalcade of “but what about Sweden, huh?” responses. Somehow this Scandinavian nation has caught the imagination of quite a few voices on the right, with a belief that somehow Sweden cracked the code and figured out just the right approach to the pandemic. The widespread perception in some circles on the right is that Sweden enacted few restrictions on citizens’ lives, kept the caseload low, minimized the damage to the nation’s economy, and achieved herd immunity.

    None of these assertions are exactly accurate; some are less accurate than others. The reality of Sweden’s policy choices is that they didn’t yield the nirvana the cheerleaders claim nor the catastrophic disaster that the country’s fiercest critics predicted. Perhaps the strongest argument against the lockdowns in the U.S. and most other European countries is that Sweden tried a different approach and ended up with comparable results.

    First, Sweden did enact many restrictions on daily life, ones that are comparable to the restrictions in place in much of the United States right now. Sweden banned visits to retirement homes in April. Bars and restaurants were limited to table service, with tables two meters apart, and shut down a few establishments that didn’t enforce those rules. The country recommended that those who could work from home do so and that citizens practice social distancing. Public events were capped at 50 people, and starting in April, the government recommended citizens “avoid any large social gathering such as parties, weddings, funerals and other events attracting many people at the same time.” For businesses, “shops and shopping centers must do what they can to limit the number of people on their premises at any one time.”

    The primary difference between Sweden and most other Western countries is that the Swedes never used the formal force of law to get citizens to alter their normal behavior. The Swedish government declared, “you should do these things to protect your health and the health of others,” and — in a concept many Americans will find alien and hard to understand — the overwhelming majority of citizens followed the instructions without any threat of legal penalty. Swedes trusted their leaders and health experts, and in most cases, didn’t need the potential penalty of fines and jail time to motivate them.

    Second, Sweden’s caseload and death rate are not quite the worst, but pretty bad, particularly when compared to its neighbors.

    Sweden currently ranks 34th highest in the world in cases per million citizens, at 8,638, and ranks 13th highest in deaths per million citizens, with 579. The United States ranks 11th in both categories, at 20,421 cases per million citizens and 602 deaths per million citizens. (It is worth keeping in mind that small counties with an outbreak can rank particularly high when measuring by cases-per-million; Qatar ranks first, Bahrain ranks second, French Guiana ranks third, Aruba ranks fourth, and Panama ranks fifth.)

    Perhaps a more useful measuring stick are Sweden’s neighbors. In cases per million, Denmark ranks 88th, Norway ranks 106th, Finland ranks 115th. In deaths per million, Denmark ranks 6oth, Finland ranks 78th, and Norway ranks 87th. By this measurement, Sweden is performing significantly worse than the nearest and most demographically and culturally-similar countries.

    The lighter approach on lockdowns meant the Swedish economy was spared somewhat, shrinking 8.3 percent in the second quarter, and the government is forecasting an overall 4.5 percent decline for the year — better than Spain and France, but comparable to the other Nordic countries. The European Union overall saw a decline of 11.9 percent during the same period, so the Swedes did better than average. The Swedish unemployment rate appears to have peaked at 9.8 percent in June, and was down to 8.8 percent in August. That’s actually on the higher end among European Union countries.


    Curiously, there’s not much sign that Swedes have developed herd immunity, at least as traditionally understood. Two studies performed in early summer by the Swedish health authorities reveal that only the 7 percent of the population had developed antibodies against him COVID-19; 12 percent had antibodies in Stockholm. One hard-hit suburb hit 18 percent. The country’s government officials have repeatedly insisted that “herd immunity” was never a deliberate goal or strategy of the country’s policies.

    There is still time for Sweden’s situation to look better than its neighbors. Right now, Sweden is in pretty good shape. Testing is at record highs, and only 1.2 percent of the tests are coming back positive. The death rate among those infected is low. But overall, the story of Sweden in this pandemic is more voluntary restrictions, a somewhat less bad serving of economic pain, and a death toll and caseload that is pretty bad compared to its neighbors.

    Perhaps if the situation in other European countries and the U.S. gets worse in autumn, Sweden will have something of the last laugh. But to the extent Sweden is a success story, it is a story of social trust — Swedes took sensible precautions to prevent the spread of the virus without lockdowns and government mandates. For America to have had comparable results, we would have needed a populace that had as much trust in government officials and public-health experts as the Swedes do.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2020
    #888     Sep 16, 2020
  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

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    And so on...and so on...
     
    #889     Sep 16, 2020
  10. Buy1Sell2

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