In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Prognosis
    Swedish Covid Infections Drop After Steady Distancing Patterns
    By
    Veronica Ek
    7 July 2020, 09:14 GMT-5
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    Johan Carlson. Photographer: Soren Andersson/TT News Agency/AFP via Getty Images


    The rate of Covid-19 infections is declining in Sweden, which health authorities said is thanks to citizens voluntarily adhering to social distancing guidelines.

    Johan Carlson, the director general of Sweden’s public health agency, said the latest official data show that overall contagion rates are “trending down” and the “number of patients in intensive care is also declining.”

    Speaking at a briefing in Stockholm on Tuesday, Carlson said that the decline in infection rates “is an effect of us keeping up the social distancing.”

    The development follows months of controversy over Sweden’s decision to avoid a proper lockdown, and instead rely on its citizens to follow distancing guidelines. But the country’s mortality rate remains well above levels in the rest of Scandinavia, with more than 10 times as many Covid-19 deaths as in neighboring Norway, per 100,000.

    Intensity Waning
    Sweden sees decline in new intensive care cases

    Source: The Public Health Agency of Sweden

    Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s state epidemiologist, has maintained that his strategy will prove more sustainable in the long run than the sudden lockdowns and reopenings adopted elsewhere. That’s as some places, such as Beijing, that had appeared to bring the virus under control recently saw fresh outbreaks.

    “Part of the reason for Sweden’s less stringent approach was the view that restrictions would need to be in place for some time, and there were doubts about whether society would be compliant with stricter measures over a long period,” said Johanna Jeansson of Bloomberg Economics.

    Immunity
    Sweden’s overall response to the virus has potentially left more people exposed to it, raising questions about herd immunity. But the data have so far been mixed. In a study published in June, the Public Health Agency found that antibodies were only found in 6.1% of the samples collected nationwide in the week ending May 24.

    An earlier analysis of 50,000 tests by Werlabs AB, a private company, showed that about 14% of people tested over six weeks in the Stockholm region developed Covid-19 antibodies.

    Carlson said that “immunity could definitely be playing a part in areas where we’ve had contagion, and that might impact the overall result.”

    Ironically, basic social distancing requirements in Sweden are now stricter than in many other countries. That’s because places like Denmark and Norway have rolled back the severe lockdowns they imposed early on to fight Covid-19.

    The stringency of Swedish requirements according to the Oxford Covid-19 Government Response Tracker shows the country now places greater restrictions on movement than Norway and Finland.


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    “Sweden’s approach has been widely misrepresented as doing nothing. It’s not,” said William Hanage, associate professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s School of Public Health in Boston. Though the death rate, especially among the elderly in nursing homes, has been very high, ultimately, “Sweden’s approach may be sustainable in ways other countries’ have not proven to be,” he said.

    Jeansson of Bloomberg Economics says Swedes aren’t likely to return to normal life any time soon, amid concerns over the virus.

    “Restrictions are likely to keep a lid on demand in Sweden through at least the third quarter,” she said. “After that, we still expect social distancing will hamper activity, probably until there’s a vaccine.”

    — With assistance by Niclas Rolander
     
    #721     Jul 22, 2020
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Still have yet to see a response to the question------"Why are Sweden's new case and new death totals so low now?"
     
    #722     Jul 22, 2020
  3. Gnus

    Gnus

    Steady Social Distancing and no blanket shutdown?
    Does that still seem magical to you?

    What else could your headline be leaving out?


    "Carlson said that “immunity could definitely be playing a part in areas where we’ve had contagion, and that might impact the overall result.”


     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2020
    #723     Jul 22, 2020
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Do you trade and what do you trade might I ask ? I'm asking as we have a lot of hard-of-thinking elderly and desperately lonely/attention seeking people who have varying degrees of autism that have been put on ignore or banned returning/using multiple accounts.

    I'll engage but need to have an idea you are legit. :)

    Most who are not retards make their first posts in a trading section.
     
    #724     Jul 22, 2020
  5. Gnus

    Gnus

    An interesting display of insecurities.

    Feel free to engage if you can or insult if you so desire.


     
    #725     Jul 22, 2020
  6. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Similar reasons why Canada's numbers have been good for two months now. In fact, a lot of the techniques being used in all these countries and some US states are quite similar and a shared learning experience. Parts of the US however are way behind on this and a price is being paid now. Make the right changes and the ship will be righted in a month hopefully even in the worst outbreak states.

    Of course, to be successful, the deniers like you have to be totally ignored, and you can't let anyone including your young people ( or anyone really ) do reckless things like fill up bars or run house parties. Canada has that latter issue right now leading to a smaller spike in infection rates in some locations. Today's number seems ok though and they traced the sources fairly well.
     
    #726     Jul 22, 2020
  7. Gnus

    Gnus

    Sweden’s top health authority says people who have had the novel coronavirus are likely to be immune for at least six months after being infected, whether they’ve developed antibodies or not.

    In new guidance published on Tuesday, the Swedish Public Health Agency said it’s now considered safe for individuals who’ve been infected to come into contact with people in high-risk groups.

    “We don’t see cases of people falling ill twice from Covid-19,” state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said during a press conference in Stockholm. “Hence, our assessment is that if you do get Covid-19 you are immune, even if you don’t develop antibodies.”

    But the agency also said that people deemed to be immune can still act as carriers of the virus in society, and must therefore continue to observe social distancing and hygiene guidelines.


    The antibody response to Covid-19 is being closely studied by scientists around the world for indications of how long-lasting immunity may be. While there’s little evidence to suggest reinfections are occurring, health experts have yet to pin down exactly how long immunity might last.

    A recent study from King’s College London showed that the level of antibodies may drop to a degree that makes them undetectable as soon as three months after infection. However, the body also mounts other forms of immunity responses, including from so-called T-cells, which appear to play an important role in protecting against reinfection with Covid-19.

    Research from Sweden’s Karolinska Institutet has indicated that about twice as many people infected by Covid-19 have developed a T-cell mediated immunity response as those who have a detectable level of antibodies.

    “The risk of being reinfected and of transmitting the disease to other people is probably very close to zero,” Tegnell said. “Therefore, we think that you can meet other people, even if they are in a high-risk group.”

    A Vaccine
    Tegnell said he expects a vaccine to be ready for distribution in Sweden “sometime during the first half of 2021,” barring setbacks in the development process.


    AstraZeneca Plc has signed an agreement to supply up to 400 million doses to European countries from the end of 2020. The company’s joint efforts with the University of Oxford to develop a vaccine showed promising results this week. But Tegnell said that “anything else would have been a disaster for AstraZeneca.”

    Tegnell remains a controversial figure for his decision to advise against imposing a proper lockdown in Sweden. The country currently has one of the highest death rates in the world, measured per 100,000, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

    But there are also signs that the contagion rate in Sweden is slowing, and Tegnell insists his strategy will ultimately be proven a success. That’s as he comes under attack from academics and scientists in his own country, who say he has mishandled the crisis.

    What the CDC Says on Immunity
    The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention currently recommends that people who have recovered from Covid-19 should follow quarantine recommendations if they are identified as a contact of a new case when more than 3 months have passed since the onset of the disease.

    On Tuesday, Tegnell said Sweden “probably” has achieved a fairly high rate of immunity, which he predicts will protect his country from new outbreaks.


    “The upshot is that the epidemic is now slowing down very drastically, in a way that I think few of us would have thought a few weeks ago,” he said. “I am very happy about that. It makes it easier for health care services, and we have fewer fatalities.”

    https://fortune.com/2020/07/22/sweden-anders-tegnell-immunity-coronavirus/
     
    #727     Jul 22, 2020
  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    You will fit right in.

    I doubt anyone cares to go back to the beginning of this with you so late in a thread.
     
    #728     Jul 22, 2020
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  9. There are no cultural reasons for different outcomes in the U.S. Its all because of discrimination or something unfair the govt has to fix with handouts or payments.
     
    #729     Jul 23, 2020
  10. Hotcakes

    Hotcakes

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    #730     Jul 23, 2020