In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Anyone posting all this crap about the virus is practically begging to get it themselves.
     
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    #671     Jul 18, 2020
  2. jem

    jem

    did I have to include the word... "overall" at the end of the sentence for morons like you?

    I have explained at least a dozens times...
    that shutting down the low risk group when the hospitals are not full...

    may not even save deaths overall and it certainly creates a great deal more harm ...

    from mental health damage to physical health damage to financial harm and loss of savings and businesses.

    but leave it to you to act like a moron and make me write it again.


     
    #672     Jul 18, 2020
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  3. jem

    jem

    You keep wishing the virus on others.
    I probably already had it nine morons. I just don't know when.

    My wife works in a hospital.
    I have to meet the clients sometimes...
    I went to the gym 2 to 3 times a week while it was open.

    Two of my 4 kids have jobs interacting with the public.

     
    #673     Jul 18, 2020
  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    I will agree with you that the lock down has taken an obvious toll on YOUR mental health. Oh, I know, everyone is a moron and if you catch the virus and are hospitalized it will be because of the government and the "left" and any assortment of enemies you are railing against.

    The virus doesn't care, and I'm betting you are more "high risk" then you care to admit.
     
    #674     Jul 18, 2020
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  5. jem

    jem

    almost everything you have posted for months here is science and data free.
    you are just a witless lefties fool soaking up the narrative without ever thinking for yourself.

    you seem to get so bitter about people who are not afraid... you can't help yourself and every week or so you start wishing the virus on them.

    I am probably going to put you on ignore for never providing any content.


     
    #675     Jul 18, 2020
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  6. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You are so full of shit and probably crazy enough that you believe all the shit you post. I could go into my career experience and how I understand data and systems far more then you do but why bother you are in so deep on this it seems pathological in nature.

    Go ahead, run all these posts by your family see what they think about your online hobby. I bet they don't like it.
     
    #676     Jul 18, 2020
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  7. jem

    jem

    Sweden still leading the way to Covid recovery... especially since shutdowning down the old folks homes.

    While other countries face the risk of a big second wave or a disastrous cycle of shut down, lose antibodies, re- open get infected, shutdown.

    1 daily death from Covid yesterday.
    it looks like 0 ICU admits
    152 positives (down from over 1500 about a month ago after a massive increase in testing)
    1 daily death from Covid yesterday.

    see the official Swedish Website here...

    Avlidna Per Dag is the amazing graph which really matters.
    Deaths Per Day

    https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa
     
    #677     Jul 19, 2020
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  8. jem

    jem

    To some this is magicial thinking. To others this the brain power to connect data dots and see the patterns early.


    Nate Silver you know the left's beloved statistician and poll guy.

    has been echoing my thoughts again...
    Weeks after I have said them.


    Nate Silver
    @NateSilver538



    Jul 17


    Thread. The US never really decided between suppression (keep R<1) and mitigation (take limited measures to e.g. keep hospitals from overflowing; basically, Sweden) and these regionally-driven flare-ups are the somewhat inevitable result.
     
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    #678     Jul 19, 2020
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    This is interesting, if it hasn't already been posted. Note that paragraph near the end. I bold-faced it.

    Argentina's COVID-19 Mystery: 57 Sailors Who Tested Negative Earlier Turn Positive After 35 Days at Sea
    Scientists have been puzzled by how, despite a 14-day quarantine period after the tests, Coronavirus reached the crew at sea

    While the world's scientists are working hard to find a vaccine for COVID-19, doctors in Argentina have their hands full with a mysterious development. Some weeks ago, 61 sailors embarked on a journey aboard a fishing trawler. They returned to land after spending 35 days at sea but 57 of them have been diagnosed with COVID-19.

    This is where the mystery begins. All 61 of the crew members had undergone testing prior to leaving for the journey and all had been found devoid of the dreaded Coronavirus. On top of that, they had also spent 14 days in quarantine after having tested negative, to further ensure that they are not infected.

    Yet, somehow, aboard the Echizen Maru trawler, many of the sailors started to get sick with symptoms of COVID-19. The boat returned to a port in Ushuaia, capital of Tierra del Fuego province, where, subjected to new tests, 57 of them were found to be carrying Coronavirus.

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    All the sailors had tested negative before embarking on their journey Pixabay
    Of the remaining four crew members, two have been found negative while the reports of the other two are yet to come. Of those infected, two crew members have been hospitalized.

    Doctors puzzled

    "It's hard to establish how this crew was infected, considering that for 35 days, they had no contact with dry land and that supplies were only brought in from the port of Ushuaia," director of primary health care in the province of Tierra del Fuego, Alejandra Alfaro, informed the media.

    The experts at the Ushuaia Regional Hospital are trying to trace the origin of the infections and how it reached the crew members despite all the precautions. Leandro Ballatore, who leads the infectious diseases department at this hospital is also perplexed by the sequence of events.

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    Experts are trying to solve the mystery of how the virus survived for so long
    According to him, it is a "case that escapes all description in publications, because an incubation period this long has not been described anywhere." He also admitted that he and his team are currently clueless about how the virus reached the trawler. "We cannot yet explain how the symptoms appeared."

    Possibilities

    There is a possibility that there may have been some flaw in the testing done prior to the journey. If that is the case, authorities who were involved in that testing will have a lot to answer for. However, there is a much more dangerous possibility.

    If the virus did indeed remain dormant for longer than what scientists believe it is able to, it would force authorities the world over to make major changes in the quarantine period and amend their safety protocols. It may also suggest that the virus has changed somewhat. That too is a worrying prospect.


    Overall, Argentina has recorded more than 100,000 cases of COVID-19 and 1,859 people have died so far. This isn't as bad a record as some countries have experienced more infections but the governments will have to stay vigilant to prevent more damage.
     
    #679     Jul 19, 2020
  10. jem

    jem

    I see two points.

    1. Only 2 out of 57 were hospitalized after being on a ship.

    2. The author did not rule out the virus was on the ship or on the supplies brought on?
     
    #680     Jul 19, 2020