Sweden's daily live case count is even dropping in spite of increased testing. So while are using failed models. There are only 2 we should be considering at this stage. 97% lockdown - per Fauci The Swedish model (after locking down the high risk) plus I would to contact tracing where there are clusters of 10 or more.
The Swedish Prime Minister launching an enquiry into the difference between what the plan was and what happened, water off a duck's back. Locking down the high risk is a great idea, when you can keep them safe from spillover of the not locked downs and massively infected. This is why other neighbour countries took a more realistic approach and had had massively fewer deaths. But we will know more as the Swedes investigate themselves.
Canada's recent infection rates are lower then Sweden's, and we've tested considerably more people then Sweden. The only "failed model" here is between your two ears.
He's locked into this Swedish thing no matter what the data says. One of the most inflexible thinkers I've ever encountered. He won't let go until it's over and then he'll try to pretend he never claimed any of it. I'm over being polite with him.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...along/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr If there is a second wave of Covid, the Swedish approach will have been right all along Not going into lockdown was described as “a mad experiment” at the time, but Sweden can look to the winter with less trepidation than most CHRISTOPHER SNOWDON11 July 2020 • 6:00pm There have been times during this pandemic that I’ve felt as if my memory is playing tricks on me. I’m sure I remember scientists telling us that a second wave was inevitable. I could have sworn I saw a graph at the press briefings showing a scary bell curve of infections in the spring and an even scarier one in the winter. I’m sure I heard experts explaining that the only way COVID-19 would disappear would be when herd immunity was achieved, either through natural antibodies or vaccination. Official documents reassure me that I am not going mad. The minutes from a Sage meeting in March say: “Sage was unanimous that measures seeking to completely suppress the spread of Covid-19 will cause a second peak.” As far as I can tell, this is still their view. Suppressing a wintry virus during the sunniest spring on record could turn out to be no great achievement. The worst may be yet to come. Advertisement One country can look to the winter with less trepidation than most. Last week, a study suggested that 30 per cent of Swedes have built up immunity to the virus. It would help explain why Covid-19 has been fizzling out in Sweden. If a measure of herd immunity also helps them avoid the second wave, Sweden’s take-it-on-the-chin approach will be vindicated. Not going into lockdown was described as “a mad experiment” by Marcus Carlsson of Lund University in March. Dr Cecilia Söderberg-Nauclér of Sweden’s Karolinska Institute accused the government of “leading us to catastrophe”, and predicted that the healthcare system would collapse unless a lockdown was introduced. Every model predicted an exponential rise in infections. With half of humanity living under lockdown, photos of Swedes socialising in bars and restaurants seemed like communiqués from another dimension. Aside from a ban on gatherings of more than 50 people, life carried on as normal. Children aged under 16 went to school. No one wore a mask. This, surely, was the calm before a terrible storm. The catastrophe never arrived. As in most other European countries, Sweden saw a peak in Covid-19 deaths in the first half of April followed by a steady decline. Shown on a graph, the pattern of mortality is indistinguishable from that of many countries that locked down. Its daily death toll rarely exceeded double figures and has been below 30 since mid-June. As in Britain, half the deaths were in care homes and two-thirds of those who died were aged 80 or over. Once it became clear that their apocalyptic prophecy had failed, critics of the Swedish approach turned to post hoc rationalisation. They cited low population density and a high rate of single person households as the explanation for Sweden’s lucky escape. Some claimed that social distancing was a natural part of Swedish culture or that Swedes did not talk enough for virus droplets to be transmitted. Some of this was true and much of it was nonsense, but none of it had been mentioned in March when Sweden was said to be doomed. It is now considered gauche to compare Sweden to Britain, Italy, Spain or any other country that had a higher death rate. You are only allowed to compare it to its immediate neighbours where the death rate is lower. Mention the UK or, heaven forbid, Belgium (which locked down a week before the UK and has the highest COVID-19 death rate in the world) and you will be told that they should have locked down sooner. The proposition becomes unfalsifiable. Heads they win, tails you lose. The goalposts have shifted. The purpose of lockdowns is no longer to protect health systems, but to prevent death at any cost. New Zealand has managed to eradicate the virus for the time being, but only by kissing goodbye to its biggest export industry – tourism – which sustains ten per cent of its economy and fourteen per cent of its workforce. Isolated from the rest of the world, it is a prisoner to a vaccine that may never be found. Australia thought it had beaten the virus, but parts of Victoria are back under lockdown after new cases were found. There have been resurgences in the United States, Israel and South Africa, to name but three. Winning the battle against the first wave may prove to be like the invasion of Iraq, merely a prelude to a long war of attrition that wastes more money and lives. If there is hope of avoiding a second wave, it lies in contact tracing, but the NHS Test and Trace remains unproven in summer, let alone winter, and businesses will still be faced with crippling social distancing rules and – worst of all – the public’s fear of going out. For all the talk of ‘Super Saturday’, only five per cent of us went to the pub last weekend. A recent survey found that only 21 per cent of us would be comfortable eating in a restaurant. And what of the costs? Sweden will not be unscathed by the global recession.Its GDP is expected to decline by 5.3 per cent this year. But GDP is expected to fall by 8.7 per cent in the Eurozone, by 9.7 per cent in Britain and by more than 10 per cent in Italy, France and Spain. Sweden has not put its children’s education on hold. It has not put its citizens under soul-sapping house arrest. If a vaccine goes into production by autumn, the Swedes will look reckless. But that is not going to happen - and winter is coming
The Idiot Left has sort of stopped talking about Sweden. I wonder why? Let's take a quick gander at the numbers===
As Sweden's death toll falls, experts warn it's not a success https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/worl...ll-falls-experts-warn-it-s-not-a-success.html Sweden's COVID-19 death toll might be falling - but experts warn other countries shouldn't copy their policies. In an attempt to achieve herd immunity, unlike the rest of Scandinavia Sweden chose not to close schools and businesses to fight the spread of the virus. This led to a death toll of around 5,500 people - close to six times worse per capita than Denmark and about 12 times worse than Norway. However coronavirus deaths have been falling dramatically in recent days and so has the daily tally of new COVID-19 cases. Between June 30 and July 6, there were fewer than five deaths per day on all days except one, Business Insider reports. And on July 7 only 283 new cases were recorded. That contrasts with a torrid month of June when daily numbers ran as high as 1,800, eclipsing rates across much of Europe But Jon Tallinger, a doctor who's been campaigning for better COVID-19 treatments, says this isn't evidence Sweden's policies have been successful. "They said that Sweden's response was effective when its deaths were rising, now they are saying it is effective as deaths are going down," he told Business Insider. "The death rates have fallen but it doesn't change the fact that our strategy has failed. And we don't know when the rates will rise again." Experts point to factors for the fall in cases such as the country entering summer, greater social distancing and improvements in protection for people in care homes. "The short answer is, that there is no short answer," Pekka Nuorti, an epidemiologist in Finland's Tampere University, told Business Insider. And economists say the relative freedom for society hasn't helped Sweden's economy. "They literally gained nothing," Jacob F Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington, told The New York Times. "It's a self-inflicted wound, and they have no economic gains."
Exactly. Sweden tried and died, it was a failure in what it set out to achieve however there is much to learn from the attempt. Sweden has a good pharma business and can generally be trusted to publish results warts and all. There is even more to learn from Norway, Denmark especially and it is disappointing Sweden is such a focus for the wrong reasons not the right ones.
That data is amazing... they are currently having zero deaths some days. They currently are experiencing zero excess deaths as a country. And the propagandista are out pushing bullshit about their high deaths in old folks homes which mostly happened before they locked them down. And then they find idiot "experts" economists who say they gained nothing. but in the article from the above link from traderob.. "And what of the costs? Sweden will not be unscathed by the global recession.Its GDP is expected to decline by 5.3 per cent this year. But GDP is expected to fall by 8.7 per cent in the Eurozone, by 9.7 per cent in Britain and by more than 10 per cent in Italy, France and Spain. Sweden has not put its children’s education on hold. It has not put its citizens under soul-sapping house arrest. If a vaccine goes into production by autumn, the Swedes will look reckless. But that is not going to happen - and winter is coming."