In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    What was predicted happened Jem, after months of killing off their elderly they figured out how not to do that plus there are fewer to kill.

    Their neighbours have done the same without the initial massacre.
     
    #531     Jul 6, 2020
  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Jem,

    You've obviously not heard that Ron DeSantis has now taken over Sweden and his first act was to throw out all of the data being reported on deaths and cases in Sweden. It is obvious that charts like this:

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    Are being manipulated. Has to be. There's no way it could be that Sweden did a good job managing the outbreak. We've seen where the rest of Europe is isolating Sweden because of their manipulation and because of how infected they've become.

    I'll see if I can google some articles showing how bad it is in Sweden, and maybe you'll believe me rather than your lying eyes.
     
    #532     Jul 6, 2020
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  3. jem

    jem

    is that what NY did
    is that what NJ and CT did
    is that what the US did...




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    Once they locked down the old folks home and let the low risk out.
    Their model started working. ..

     
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    #533     Jul 6, 2020
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  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I'm being sarcastic.
     
    #534     Jul 6, 2020
  5. jem

    jem

    I know that... I was replying to bugenwrongen... who never wants to discuss the current science and data but dwell on mistakes made in the beginning in many countries.



     
    #535     Jul 6, 2020
  6. jem

    jem

    Your chart is the chart which destroys the idea that low risk groups had to be locked down.



     
    #536     Jul 6, 2020
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Ah, I've had that idiot on ignore ever since he was Slartibartfest.
     
    #537     Jul 6, 2020
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  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Wrong characterisation. Your poor little ego, you keep adding to the thread hoping someone will give you a pat on the head.

    Not for you but to ruin your game, had the US done the same at time, the death rate would have been astronomical.

    Lockdown, flatten curve, get good at protecting vulnerable, phased unlock an keep options open was the correct approach.
     
    #538     Jul 6, 2020
  9. jem

    jem

    Bugen is wrong again...

    do you understand facts and data...
    do you understand these charts... which I have presented many times...

    look at the curves as they are aligned from the first date of deaths...
    many countries made mistakes early on and did eventually shutdown their old folks homes.
    The US did not due so well at first either
    43 percent of our deaths were in Old folks homes...

    Some of states like NY and NJ did really poorly
    NY lost 25,000 people
    Sweden lost 5333.


    1. The proper strategy should have been data driven after the first few weeks.
    This was not the time to lockdown the young and healthy for the first time in history....

    as i have said the science an data driven approach should have been...

    Lockdown for 2 to 3 weeks..
    lockdown the borders
    flatten curve in areas where there is a shortage of hospital beds
    by being ready to lockdown again...

    protect the high group and keep them isolated
    let the low risk group out
    be ready to test and trace clusters to prevent super spreaders from spreading to large quantities of people.






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    #539     Jul 6, 2020
  10. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    You keep repeating your lie, I'll tell the obvious truth.

    You have to lockdown for however long it takes to get the state and people and materials organised. That is not two to three weeks, its two to three months at a minimum.

    This is the real world kiddo.
     
    #540     Jul 6, 2020