He doesn't believe us...why would he believe Swedish Health Officials ??? Simply, Sweden government and their health officials already knew prior to the Pandemic that they not only could not protect the elderly...they couldn't protect their healthcare workers, they couldn't protect their ethnic communities, they couldn't protect their migrant workers nor could they protect those with underlying medical conditions. Another way to look at it...the elderly is not the only variable. Sweden could not protect a lot of people beyond the elderly. It'll be like saying if we arrest all the high school teenagers that smoke weed...there would not be a drug problem in North America. wrbtrader
you really should look at the data... and real science instead of getting your info from politicians you have been wrong for over a year... deadly wrong and dangerous. https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...L~CAN~FRA~GRC~GBR~USA&Metric=Confirmed+deaths
Actually, Swedish government (politicians) said nothing that differed from the Sweden Public Health Agency...they all followed (comply) with Sweden Public Health Agency whom in turned followed Tegnell. Remember the earlier link I posted late last year in which Tegnell was emailing the health officials of their Scandinavian neighbors... He specifically stated... “Sweden should let the infection run through the population. This would allow a form of immunity to be achieved as soon as possible. That was the plan. If you read emails that were sent between leading people at the health agencies at that time and listen to what was said quite openly, this confirms it,” Elgh said to sciencenorway.no. ---------- Those email exchanges only involved health officials...not politicians. More importantly, most of the articles out of Sweden about Covid was released by health officials. One of the most revealing aspect that Sweden knew the dangers of their healthcare policy...some of the health officials took their elderly parents out of the nursing homes prior to the excessive high mortality hit the country. Not Politicians...it was health officials that worked in Sweden Public Health Agency that executed Tegnell policy. They all then bragged about it and coined it "Lockdown Lite"...releasing Youtube videos about how life if great in Sweden. I'm imagining one of them calling his/her parents in one of those nursing homes. Hey mom / dad...I'm coming to pick you up and you're going to stay home with us for awhile because we're about to kill off a lot of old people in the nursing homes instead of telling the workers in the nursing homes to mask up and only work one job...not work at multiple different nursing homes to help minimize the spread of Covid. Those videos stopped as the Covid numbers started rising fast again from the summer while their Scandinavian neighbors were not...forcing Sweden to change their Constitution and to start using strict restrictions. I still believe there will be a an investigation into the Sweden Public Health Agency considering they knew the healthcare policy did not protect their vulnerable people (e.g. ethnic communities, healthcare workers, people with underlying medical conditions, elderly). The tune of Sweden Public Health Agency and Tegnell himself begin to change late 2020 and we all know what happen next... Vaccines discovered and strict restrictions were used...Covid number then begin to decline in Sweden. They Knew Early Into The Pandemic that Natural Herd Immunity was going to fail and a few of them removed their parents from the nursing homes before the shit hit the fan. wrbtrader
Swedish government accused of failure in handling of COVID-19 pandemic https://newsaf.cgtn.com/news/2021-0...g-of-COVID-19-pandemic-10NMgxsuzw4/index.html The Swedish government was on Thursday accused by the parliamentary constitutional committee of failing in several aspects of its handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. According to the committee, the centre-left minority administration was not quick enough to implement a testing and tracing system, failed to protect the elderly and did not distinguish clearly lines of responsibility between national and local authorities. "It is ... clear that Sweden was not sufficiently prepared before (the pandemic) and we can learn from many of the underlying failures that have been identified," Hans Ekstrom, deputy chairman of the committee and a Social Democrat lawmaker, told a hearing. The committee said the government should have been faster in constituting a framework for testing and tracing and crafting a law granting it greater authority to handle the crisis, in addition to being quicker to isolate care homes for the elderly. "The government's response was not sufficient," committee chairperson Karin Enstrom, of the opposition Moderate Party, said. The committee, however, did not discuss the controversial decision not to impose any lockdown. Sweden has been an exception the fight against the coronavirus pandemic by deciding against implementing lockdowns and largely using non-coercive measures. The country's death toll has been higher than those among its Nordic neighbours, but lower than in most European countries that imposed the measure. The government has already conceded that it did not do enough to protect elderly residents of care homes. Meanwhile, Health and Social Affairs Minister Lena Hallengren admitted that while some issues might have been handled better, the committee had not pointed out serious constitutional criticism. "But there are descriptions of things that could have been handled differently, and where one could have found clarity faster," she told news agency TT. According to figures from the Johns Hopkins University, Sweden has reported 1,068,473 confirmed cases and 14,451 deaths.
If failure is relative to these other large countries... then Sweden was a massive success in that they preserved the lives of so many instead of telling their healthy to lockdown and yet without following the China solution their numbers of covid deaths per million looks similar to all these lockdown countries which destroyed so many healthy peoples lives and businesses with their non science and data based lockdowns. https://ourworldindata.org/explorer...L~CAN~FRA~GRC~GBR~USA&Metric=Confirmed+deaths
Sweden doing much better than Brazil. Thus, they must be the model country in the world of successfully managing Covid Pandemic. Yet, Swedish Public Health Agency and Tegnell are not only in consultation with health officials from Denmark, Finland and Norway...they are comparing their metrics with them too. #stopwhitewashing wrbtrader
Sweden's unemployment rate the past year (March 2020 to March 2021) when they did not lockdown to go along with the earlier charts posted in this thread about their increasing GDP, increasing suicides above the norm and excessive high mortality from Covid. Simply, don't believe the misinformation that a countries mental well being and economy is better off when they do not lock down if you do not understand the dynamics involving the Scandinavian countries. The question now...would Sweden had suffered more economically and mental well being had they lockdown and protected their migrant workers, ethnic communities, healthcare workers, citizens with underlying medical conditions and the elderly ? I think it can only be answered via comparing Sweden to other Scandinavian countries that did in fact lockdown...via looking at the same metrics (e.g. GDP growth, Covid mortality, unemployment rates, suicides/mental illnesses). So far, when comparing the Scandinavian countries that locked down to Sweden that did not lockdown... Sweden's metrics were either worst or similar in comparison. In addition, a big issue was made about children's education and the impact on children... That's currently being researched by the Swedish people and I will release those results too when they unload the info to the statistic websites. Children suffered all over the world regardless if the country lockdown or not lockdown. The question...did countries that did not lockdown perform better and that can only be answered via whatever metrics they release to the public. Going forward, I think there's useful information out of these comparisons because other countries will use it when other Pandemics in the future occurs to help decide to lockdown or not lockdown along with decisions about other public healthcare policy. wrbtrader
If you go to the official site... on a PC so you see virus, ICU admits and Covid death graphs at the same time. Its easy to see the very strong correlation between ICU admits and Deaths during during the first two waves of ICU admits... the third wave of ICU admits one not so much... It would be interesting to find out if this change during the 3rd wave was because this time the people going into the ICUs were younger, if the variants were simply less deadly, if the Swedes had better therapeutics and treatment, if perhaps they were simply admitting less sick people or if it was something else... https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa/page/page_0/
I stated earlier in the above commentary... Increasing GDP during Sweden's lockdown in Covid. That's incorrect. I meant to say "decreasing GDP" during Sweden's lockdown. wrbtrader
apparently its the same stupidity everywhere with lefties in major countries. Lefties do not want to acknowledge that bringing in low skilled immigrants... has a set of problems... you lower wages workers wages or slow the increase in wages. you increase those in proverty... you increase unemployment (particularly in down economies) you see and increase wealth distribution gaps... etc. lefties would rather blame tax cuts than accept their fact that bringing in unskilled labor lowers your stats in many economic scenarios. In Sweden we see that immigrant unemployment went up strongly while native Swedes only saw a 1% increase during Covid. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...economy-powers-through-pandemic-idUSKBN2B91MO STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Sweden has powered through the COVID-19 crisis with an economy set to regain its pre-pandemic size by late-2021, but a surge in unemployment among its foreign-born citizens risks exacerbating social divisions for years to come. Stockholm’s rejection of lockdowns left the country an outlier in Europe. The decision came at the cost of higher infection rates than its Nordic neighbours but has helped spare the local economy. Europe as a whole will not see output return to pre-pandemic levels until 2022. The headline numbers however, hide wide differences in the experience of Swedes in negotiating the coronavirus. Bakir Ajlan ran a taxi firm in the southern city of Malmo until mid-2020, when the pandemic forced him to shut up shop and lay off 15 drivers, mostly foreign-born Swedes like himself. “There were lots of customers,” he said. “But now there aren’t any after 9 or 10 in the evening. There’s nothing to do.” Ajlan came to Sweden as a 17-year-old from Baghdad in 1993. Despite graduating with a degree in Middle Eastern Studies from Lund University - one of the country’s best schools - he only found work as a taxi driver. A rigid labour market and a lack of low-skilled jobs means Sweden has been poor at integrating waves of immigrants, or “new Swedes”, since the 1970s - a social and economic divide that has been widened further. Those with full-time work – most Swedish-born citizens - have been supported by furlough schemes and relatively few have lost their jobs. But contract workers and the self-employed - often foreign-born - have been badly hit. ADVERTISEMENT Unemployment among foreign-born workers stood at 18% in the fourth quarter of last year, up 3.5 percentage points from a year earlier, according to Statistics Office data. For people born in Sweden, it was 4.1%, up just 1 percentage point. Swedish central bank Governor Stefan Ingves acknowledged this month that there are “big, big differences” in what people are experiencing across the labour market as a whole. WORSENING SOCIAL DIVIDE Immigration has been running at high levels for the past two decades in Sweden, with a record 163,000 asylum seekers arriving in the country of 10 million in 2015. Many of the most recent arrivals have yet to find jobs and research covering the last few decades shows 50% of immigrants take between five and 10 years to secure employment. While economy is expected to bounce back after shrinking a relatively mild 2.8% last year and many jobs should return, worries are growing that the longer the crisis lasts the more people will slip into longer-term joblessness. A record 180,000 Swedes had been unemployed for a year or more in February, up 26,000 on the same month a year ago and the figure is expected to continue rising, according to the Public Employment Service. ADVERTISEMENT That in turn will do little to alleviate the divide between the “haves” and “have nots” that has blighted many immigrant-dominated suburbs in Sweden’s biggest cities, already suffering from crime linked to gangs and drugs. “If you look at the development in Sweden, long-term unemployment is one of the factors that creates social exclusion,” Ali Esbati, a Swedish member of parliament and spokesman on employment issues for the Left Party said. “It’s part of a long trend in Sweden of growing economic division which has been caused by changes in tax policy, pressure on public services, etc, and these have meant that the social divide in Sweden has increased.” LONG-TERM CHALLENGE The government has launched a raft of measures - some of which predate the pandemic - aimed at getting people into work, including subsidized employment, tax breaks for employers, on-the-job training schemes and its “knowledge-lift” programme that offers study opportunities for the unemployed. Its economic package of emergency COVID-19 measures is worth around 400 billion Swedish crowns ($47.01 billion). “Rising long-term unemployment is one of the most important challenges we face in the wake of the pandemic,” Employment Minister Eva Nordmark said in a written comment.