In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Tegnell and Swedish Health Officials when they first announced their initial health care policy in the Pandemic had failed and then denying they used the Natural Herd Immunity.

    How to properly backtrack with style.

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    #3001     May 19, 2021
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    well, they took a position on a hypothesis that failed (natural herd immunity), and have now corrected. Proving a hypothesis wrong is part of the scientific method. Shame about the lives lost though, but at least they've remained objective and to a casual observer apolitical. Luckily Sweden's demographics and health care system did not resemble those of other "embrace herd immunity" states such as Brazil or India.
     
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    #3002     May 19, 2021
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Only a fool believes that vaccinations don't take a massive bite out of virus rampaging. Of course they do.
     
    #3003     May 19, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    That's an incredible insight that was ignored in the other Sweden thread but .
    not ignored by world health officials.

    Another important issue...those other countries had poor management of the vaccination misinformation / disinformation.

    Simply, Sweden had much less vaccine hesitancy than countries like Brazil and India. Thus, Sweden's able to take advantage of Covid vaccinations that has resulted in declining Covid infections, hospitalizations and ICUs.

    Yet, it was a two punch combination that knocked Covid down via the strict restrictions used in problematic areas of Sweden in combo with the vaccinations.

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    #3004     May 19, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    The vaccination level in Sweden is much higher than Brazil, India and other countries. This is driving the improving numbers seen in Sweden.


    More than 1 million people in Sweden fully vaccinated against Covid-19
    https://www.thelocal.com/20210519/m...-in-sweden-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19/
     
    #3005     May 19, 2021
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    No doubt it is.
     
    #3006     May 19, 2021
  7. jem

    jem

    1. When did they say that was their policy?
    2. When do you say they put the policy of herd immunity in place?
    3. When comparing it to a broad spectrum of countries how and why did it fail?


     
    #3007     May 19, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    #3008     May 19, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Sweden records the most new coronavirus cases in the EU
    https://www.thelocal.se/20210521/sweden-has-the-most-new-coronavirus-cases-in-the-eu/

    Sweden's rate of coronavirus cases has topped European Union figures

    The country had a 14-day-notification rate of 577 cases per 100,000 inhabitants, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

    Passing one million cases in early May, Sweden has been near the top, just after Cyprus, for weeks with new cases subsiding faster in the rest of Europe. Sweden saw a peak in mid-April with a 14-day-notification rate of over 800 cases per 100,000 people.

    “Many countries in Europe have been at considerably higher levels than what we are seeing now, so it’s probably more about Sweden had a fairly late surge in this hopefully last third wave,” state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell told a press conference, lamenting that the caseload was still higher than last summer.

    The Scandinavian country has never imposed the type of lockdown seen elsewhere in Europe, controversially relying on mostly non-coercive measures. It has gradually tightened restrictions since November, including a ban on alcohol sales after 8pm and on public gatherings of more than eight people.

    Since March, cafes, bars and restaurants have also been required to shut by 8.30pm.

    The 14-day-notification for deaths however was much lower than many other countries, with 12 cases per million inhabitants. In comparison, Hungary and Croatia saw death rates of 133 and 128 per million inhabitants respectively.

    The total number of deaths associated with Covid-19 since the start of pandemic reached 14,351 on Thursday, putting Sweden in the middle of the pack in Europe, although well ahead of Nordic neighbours Finland, Norway and Denmark.

    Mortality statistics also show that Sweden had a lower than average excess mortality in 2020, compared to the rest of Europe.

    The chart below from Our World in Data compares Sweden’s infection rate to the EU average and the eight other countries covered by The Local, and you can add further countries to the chart for comparison.

    Sweden-cases-May-21.jpg
     
    #3009     May 21, 2021
  10. jem

    jem

    Tegnell has it correct again...they had a late surge in the virus...probably the variant but they are still outperforming with a very low death rate compared to Germany and multiple other countries in Europe. As we have been tracking it for months.
    No lockdown and outperformed the second wave... protect the high risk...let the low risk live.


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    #3010     May 21, 2021