In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    strawman bullshit
    and an implicit logical fallacy from you...

    all tied up in one piece of bullshit from gwBE-lying always.


     
    #2961     Apr 20, 2021
  2. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell has done the right thing to encourage more vaccinations in Sweden with the increasing anti-vaxxer rhetoric from outsiders that are in Sweden.

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    Sweden’s state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell gets Astra Zeneca vaccine


    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who became the face of Sweden’s coronavirus strategy last year, has been vaccinated against Covid-19 with Astra Zeneca’s jab.

    Tegnell received his first dose of the vaccine at a Covid-19 vaccination hub set up at the Saab Arena in the city of Linköping on Friday, reports regional newspaper Corren.

    Sweden currently only recommends the Astra Zeneca vaccine for over-65s, following reports of extremely rare blood clots. Tegnell, who turned 65 last week, told Corren he wanted “to send an important signal that Astra is a great vaccine for people over 65”.

    He said he had not had any serious side effects, only a mild fever.

    Swedish vocabulary: newspaper – tidning

    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who became the face of Sweden’s coronavirus strategy last year, has been vaccinated against Covid-19 with Astra Zeneca’s jab. https://t.co/BUPMWLRpJh

    — The Local Sweden (@TheLocalSweden) April 19, 2021
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    Vaccinated Herd Immunity was the way to go and he finally understands such as fact via getting vaccinated even though late last year he and others backtracked (cover their tracks) via saying Natural Herd Immunity was not their health policy.

    Seems to me someone doesn't like the site of blood on their hands.

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    wrbtrader
     
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    #2962     Apr 20, 2021
  3. jem

    jem

    Vaccines for the high risk are a very good thing.
    It seems almost everything Tegnall does is based on data.
    he admits when he is wrong.
    he knows Sweden made a large mistakes in the beginning...


    Basically after the first round of deaths...

    during this Covid time he has been the smartest govt person in the room.
     
    #2963     Apr 20, 2021
  4. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao


    For posterity, and because GWB reminded me to revisit this, I had originally posted This chart:

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    GWB immediately (as is his wont) called bullshit on the chart's source, and then challenged the data. The source of the data (listed on the bottom of the chart) did, indeed, show a number on the left axis of lower amounts of new cases for Collier County Florida. GWB immediately launched on this to dismiss the whole chart, and I admitted that I could not prove why the numbers were off.

    However, on a second look, I realized the data provided in the chart is "New Cases Per 1M" population. But since Collier County FL has a population of 384k, not 1 million, any case count would have to be multiplied by a factor of ~2.60 in order to get to a case count of 1 Million population. For the same reason these numbers are divided when comparing countries and states, you have to multiply them when your data set is smaller. Math is hard.

    Taking the number of approximately 600 (as an example) on around the 7/21 timeframe and dividing by 2.60 gives approximately 230, which was the data set provided on that date.

    So the chart was accurate to the letter. GWB just doesn't understand math. (and I didn't either at first until I did the math).

    Prepare yourself for the onslaught of complaints and whining from GWB about how its still wrong because of "stuff" he won't tell us.
     
    #2964     Apr 20, 2021
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Good luck with your explanation. The entire explanation is contained in the thread including your admission the data on the chart is wrong. The math does not add up no matter how you try to divide it by county population.
     
    #2965     Apr 20, 2021
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Right, right. "its wrong" without any explanation as to what is wrong. You just got owned, dude. Best just slink away like always.
     
    #2966     Apr 20, 2021
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Sweden not ready to lift COVID restrictions, but PM says end in sight
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sweden-not-ready-lift-covid-120445581.html

    Sweden, which has shunned lockdowns throughout the pandemic, will postpone a tentative plan to ease some COVID-19 restrictions, due to the ongoing high levels of new infections, the government said on Thursday.

    Sweden is experiencing a third wave of the virus and the number of patients being treated in intensive care is at the highest level since the spring of last year.

    "When the strain on healthcare eases and the spread of infection drops, only then will the government be ready to start lifting restrictions," Prime Minister Stefan Lofven told a news conference. "But we are not there yet."

    The restrictions will be prolonged until mid-May and mean restaurants will have to close at 8.30 pm and that shops and malls can only let in limited numbers of customers. Sport venues and public pools will remain effectively closed to visitors.

    Lofven pleaded with people to hold out for a while longer, but said that the vaccination programme meant there was light at the end of the tunnel.

    "We are, perhaps, seeing the beginning of the end," he said.

    More than two million, or roughly a quarter, of all adult Swedes have now received at least one shot of vaccine.

    Sweden registered 7,736 new COVID-19 cases on Thursday and 19 new deaths, taking the total deaths to 13,882.

    The Health Agency said that cases reported so far this week had been lower than the previous week, but that it was too early to say whether the trend would continue.
     
    #2967     Apr 22, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    ‘Yes, it’s really that bad’: Several Swedish regions reach maximum intensive care capacity
    https://www.thelocal.se/20210421/ye...have-reached-maximum-intensive-care-capacity/

    Several Swedish regions have reached their maximum capacity for intensive care and been forced to ask other regions for help as the continued high spread of Covid-19 is leading to more people – especially young people – requiring hospital treatment.

    Health Minister Lena Hallengren called a briefing on Wednesday to underline the severity of the situation in the nation’s intensive care departments.

    “In several places in the healthcare sector, more people are being cared for than at any time during the pandemic,” said Hallengren.

    “Healthcare workers are also people, and no person can manage for an indefinite time. In the long-term, the healthcare sector cannot compensate for the fact that far too many are making far too little effort to follow the guidelines and recommendations.

    “Let me stress one thing: there is no room to live as if the pandemic is already over. The infection rate won’t go down by itself. Think about the fact that Covid-19 can be so serious that not even intensive care helps, even for those who are completely healthy to start with. Now you, I, and all others need to renew our efforts to follow the restrictions.”

    She said that although the healthcare sector had made major efforts to equip itself to cope with the pandemic, it was not possible to sustain these efforts at the same level now that Sweden is in its third wave of the virus.

    How many people are in intensive care?

    When the virus first hit Sweden last year, the nation which had one of Europe’s lowest numbers of intensive care beds per capita worked hard todouble that number.

    As of April 20th, Sweden had 767 available places in intensive care wards equipped with ventilators, according to the latest report from theNational Board of Health and Welfare.

    Of those, 649 (85 percent) were occupied, including 416 (54 percent of the total available places, 63 percent of occupied beds) Covid-19 patients. That’s a higher figure than at the peak of the second wave: 636 patients were being treated in ICUs on January 13th. The peak of the first wave, the highest number of intensive care patients reported in Sweden at any point during the pandemic, was 777 patients on April 29th, 2020 (including all patients in intensive care, not just Covid-19).

    What does this mean?

    While 15 percent available capacity might sound like a stable situation, this is below the target of 20 percent, and Sweden has been below that target on most days in April.

    The country does not aim for more spare capacity than this, because it says having more than 20 percent unused capacity can lead to inefficient use of stretched resources, but the National Board of Health and Welfare’s director Olivia Wigzell said the current situation meant the healthcare sector had “small margins” and that some regions had “reached their limit”.

    She explained that extra beds were needed to be able to deal with emergencies, including non-Covid related incidents such as traffic accidents, and added that Sweden was co-operating with other Nordic countries – comparatively less hard hit by the pandemic – for example to get the necessary medical equipment.

    “Every extra place in intensive care is not just a bed but also staff, skills, and effort. Staff have worked for a long time under great pressure with basically no breathing room between the second and third wave,” said Wigzell.

    She added that on average, six out of every 100 people who test positive for Covid-19 will end up in hospital two weeks later, and said that based on the current high spread of infection, this means the numbers of intensive care admissions will also continue to increase.

    Before the pandemic, Sweden had 526 available intensive care beds. Increasing capacity has put a significant burden on healthcare workers, requiring longer shifts, moving staff from other departments and regions, and cancelling non-urgent care in many parts of the country.

    Another big difference is that the average age of people in intensive care wards with Covid-19 is now much lower than during previous waves. Fewer over-70s are currently receiving intensive care for the virus, but currently around a third of ICU patients are aged under 50.

    This is partly because many of the elderly and most vulnerable to severe illness from the disease have now gained a level of protection through vaccination. But it also shows how the increased spread of the virus among all age groups means that more young and generally fit people are becoming seriously ill from catching Covid-19.

    Which regions are hardest hit?

    The burden is also unevenly distributed across Sweden, so that although nationwide there may be fewer patients in ICUs than last spring, in some regions hospitals have already reached maximum capacity and been forced to transfer patients elsewhere.

    Five of Sweden’s 21 regions have less than ten percent spare ICU capacity, and a further eight between 10-20 percent. And all but one region told the agency they expected the situation to worsen in both the immediate term (the next 1-3 days) and long-term (the next 10-15 days).

    Also speaking at the government’s briefing was an intensive care nurse from Uppsala, Sofia Lindström, who is also spokesperson for the region’s Association of Health Professionals.

    “I have seen all the press conferences over the past year and I know that a lot of people have a hard time understanding what is being described,” she said. “When I was dropping off at the preschool a few weeks ago, the teacher asked me, ‘is it as bad as they are saying in the media, is it really that bad in the healthcare sector’? Yes, it is that bad.”

    “We have paid with our health. We have worked overtime, an enormous number of hours – we have broken records in the number of overtime,” she said.

    Uppsala is one of the regions, along with Dalarna, Gävleborg, Halland, Kalmar, and Västernorrland, that currently have more Covid-19 patients in intensive care than at any point previously during the pandemic.

    Sörmland and Stockholm were two of the regions most severely hit by the first wave in spring 2020 and Covid-19 intensive care admissions are not back at those levels, but have still surpassed the peak of the second wave. The situation is similar in Norrbotten, Värmland, Västerbotten, Örebro, Östergötland, with Covid-19 intensive care numbers higher now than at the peak of the second wave but not yet at spring 2020 levels, though in these regions the current figures are not far off those from the first wave.
     
    #2968     Apr 22, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Sweden threatens new crackdown if COVID infection rate doesn't go down
    https://ph.news.yahoo.com/sweden-covid-19-infection-rate-crackdown-lockdown-183015814.html

    The Swedish government has said it could implement stricter COVID lockdown measures if people ignore existing restrictions and raise pressure on healthcare services.

    The warning came as hospitals in the country struggled to cope with the third wave of coronavirus.

    Sweden, whose still mostly voluntary measures has made it an outlier in its response to the pandemic, has seen the number of people in intensive care rise to its highest level since the initial outbreak last year.

    In some regions, intensive care has been filled to maximum capacity and the number of available beds for those worst ill is below 20% across the nation.

    Minister for health and social affairs Lena Hallengren said: “There is no room now to start living as if the pandemic is already over.

    “The infection rate does not go down by itself.”

    Hallengren stressed the need to adhere to existing rules and recommendations but said she did not rule out stricter measures if the situation deteriorated.

    She did not elaborate on what steps could be taken or what would trigger them.

    On Wednesday, a total of 409 people were treated at intensive care units in Sweden, compared to about 560 at the height of the first wave of the virus.

    Sweden, which has shunned lockdowns and kept schools, businesses and restaurants largely open, registered 7,510 new coronavirus cases on Wednesday and 38 new deaths, taking the total to 13,863.

    The deaths reported have occurred over several days and sometimes weeks.

    The country's death rate per capita is many times higher than that of its Nordic neighbours’, but lower than in most European countries that opted for lockdowns.

    Data from the European Centre for Disease Control this week showed Sweden had among the highest number of new cases per capita in the EU during the last 14-day period and among the lowest deaths.

    Sweden's health agency has said the relatively low death toll is due to vaccinations having a positive effect.

    The country has administered 2.6 million doses, meaning 23.7% of the adult population has received at least one dose.

    On Tuesday, officials said citizens under 65 who have had one shot of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine would be given a different vaccine for their second dose.

    Sweden paused the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine in March after reports of rare, but serious, blood clots among people who had received that shot.

    It later resumed the use of AstraZeneca’s vaccine, but only for people aged 65 or above.

    Chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said that the benefits of the AstraZeneca vaccine clearly outweighed the risks for people over 65.

    Sweden also announced last week it would ease restrictions on those, mostly elderly, citizens who have had at least one vaccination shot against COVID-19.
     
    #2969     Apr 22, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2970     Apr 22, 2021
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