In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Surprise, surprise -- living in a country where the government plague rats have been promoting "natural herd immunity" makes people much more suicidal... who would have figured.
     
    #2821     Mar 23, 2021
  2. jem

    jem

    corrupted garbage coming out of your ... its not even fair to call it a mind...

    only an insane lying idiot moron douchebag would even attempt to argue that promoting fear and lockdowns is a good thing for people's mental health.


     
    #2822     Mar 23, 2021
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Months ago I had talked about the psychological impact on ones mental well being when they know what's occurring around the world via their connection to social media, television along with the fact they knew things were bad in their own country that their Scandinavian neighbors had begun border closures...

    Then they saw what was occurring in their own country...they become over sensitive to the Pandemic especially when they had so much death in their own country...
    • It must have been scary.
    Simply, instead of feeling safe...some people begin to feel trapped and in danger via knowing their government Natural Herd Immunity experiment was not protecting them as the government had promised.
    • The above is my hypothesis about why Sweden's suicide death rate had unusually exceeded its norm and did such during a Pandemic.
    Yet, those statistics I posted earlier would be much more interesting if we knew when the suicides occurred during the Pandemic and if theses individuals had relationships with someone that died from Covid or their employment was impacted severely by the declining economics of Covid in Sweden.

    Note: The so called fear mongering bullshit excuse...ironically is really by those trying to project what was occurring in their own country onto another country named Sweden.

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  4. gwb-trading

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    These are the groups in Sweden that have been worst affected by the coronavirus
    Sweden is again taking stock of which groups have been the worst affected by Covid-19. Here's a breakdown of the current situation based on several recent analyses.
    https://www.thelocal.se/20210323/th...-have-been-worst-affected-by-the-coronavirus/

    Age, gender and risk group

    The biggest risk factor for dying of coronavirus, in Sweden as everywhere else, is age, and this is confirmed in data collected by Dagens Nyheter, from Statistics Sweden and the Swedish Board of Health and Welfare.

    In Sweden, 72 percent of those who had died of coronavirus up until March 8th this year were 80 years old or older, according to DN’s breakdown. Of the roughly 13,000 people who have died of the virus, 16 were under the age of 30, and only 6 under the age of 19.

    There also appear to be differences in risk factor linked to gender. Men under the age of 60 had a coronavirus death rate of 27.9 per 100,000, compared to just 9 per 100,000 for women the same age. For those between 60 and 69, the difference was 87.2 to 32.6, and for those between 70 and 79, it was 313 compared to 165.3.

    According to Sweden’s ICU register, of the 5,645 people who have been treated in intensive care, 81.9 percent had some sort of risk factor. Risk factors included being over 65 years old, high blood pressure, chronic pulmonary heart disease, chronic liver or kidney diseases, reduced immune protection, obesity, neuromuscular diseases, and diabetes.

    Of these, the most common risk factor among intensive care patients was high blood pressure, which affected 45 percent of those treated, chronic pulmonary heart disease which affected 29.7 percent, and diabetes, which affected 26.4 percent.

    As many elderly are not seen as likely to respond well to intensive care treatment, the mean age of those treated was 61.4, and the median age 63.

    Professions

    Driving instructors are the profession in Sweden which have been hardest hit by coronavirus, followed by dentists, doctors, and physiotherapists, according to a new study by CAMM, the Karolinska Institute’s centre for occupational and environmental medicine.

    According to the study, driving instructors are 2.7 times as likely as the average person to be treated in hospital for severe coronavirus. It’s worth noting that there were only 1,910 driving instructors among those whose data was studied, of whom just 14 were hospitalised.

    “They sit together with pupils in cars for a fairly long time and both of them need to sit in the front seat,” explained Maria Albin, a professor at CAMM, of the high risk profile for the profession. “We know from earlier studies that coronavirus spreads very easily between people who are travel together in minibuses.”

    Driving instruction is also a profession that it is impossible to do from home, or with an adequate social distance, and where you are forced to share the same confined space with your client.

    According to the CAMM study, dentists and doctors are also at elevated risk, with dentists having a 2.11 times higher chance of being treated in hospital with Covid, doctors 2.09 times higher, and physiotherapists, naturopaths and occupational therapists a risk 2.05 times higher.

    Albin said that there was a higher risk for professions that require close physical proximity to others, and also for those that deal with people who are sick.

    “It is worse if you are both working close to other people and exposed to others’ sicknesses and infections than if you are only exposed to one of these factors,” she said.

    She said she had been surprised that the risks for these exposed groups had remained so elevated, when a previous analysis carried out after the first wave of infection in spring had already shown that they were at a higher risk of infection.

    She said this might reflect the onset of the winter season rather than employers’ failing to take action to protect their staff.

    “This doesn’t necessarily mean that employers haven’t taken action to reduce the risk,” she said. “It has been the winter season, when more people are meeting indoors and when the air is dryer, which we believe has an impact on transmission.”

    Nonetheless, she said, this increased transmission should push employers to take even more safety precautions in the winter months.

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    CAMM’s study was based on data collected by Region Stockholm to track which inhabitants tested positive for coronavirus, were admitted to hospital, or died, with the Stockholm database then linked with Statistics Sweden’s register of the individuals’ addresses, professions, birth countries, and income levels.

    Income level

    The DN report found that those aged 50 to 64 living on incomes of less than 10,000 kronor a month were nearly seven times as likely to die of coronavirus in Sweden than those in the same age bracket living on incomes of more than 50,000 kronor a month.

    There were 71.8 deaths per 100,000 among those earning less than 10,000 kronor a month compared to 10.9 deaths per 100,000 among those earning more than 50,000 kronor.

    While it is not possible to say why this is, possible factors include lower earners being more likely to work in jobs that cannot be done from home or a correlation with living in more crowded housing, for example.
    Nationality

    DN’s analysis also reconfirmed a disproportionate number of deaths among people born abroad, particularly in Somalia.

    The death rate among 60 to 79-year-old’s born outside Sweden is 252.6 per 100,000, compared to 142.8 per 100,000 among those born inside Sweden. Among 60 to 79-year-olds born in Somalia, the death rate was 30.3 per 100,000.

    The next most overrepresented birth nation was Finland, with 24.5 deaths per 100,000 within the age group reflecting the large number of Finns who came to work in Swedish factories in the 1960s.

    Those born in Bosnia-Herzegovina and the former Yugoslavia, also had high death rates in this age group, at 23.4 per 100,000 and 22.3 per 100,000 respectively.

    Anton Lager, a public health epidemiologist working for Region Stockholm, told DN that three-quarters of the over-representation of those born abroad could be explained by “over-crowded apartments, earlier illness, low income, profession, and age”.

    “A large part of the explanation is also believed to relate to the area where the people live,” he added.

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    #2824     Mar 24, 2021
  5. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I'm going to splinter off a new thread from this thread to concentrate more on Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, other European countries and Asia because of the changing environment involving Covid, variants, increasing protests...I just need to think of new thread title so that it does not just involve Sweden and it Scandinavian neighbors.
    • Also, I will be starting a personal French blog (it will be in French) covering similar topics that I will be posting about here in the new Sweden thread to minimize the trolling, Covidiots and disingenuous replies here at Elitetrader by those not able to stay on topic about Covid...it should minimize the misinformation about Covid.
    There will be no linking in the personal blog and the new thread here at ET nor will it be a façade for anything related to trading. This is a new phase of the Pandemic recovery but many areas have been having more news about Covid's impact on the country besides vaccination...I just want an environment that's free of the trolling that shouldn't be posted at a trading forum.

    It's becoming more important to me now that I see that light at the end of the tunnel out of this Pandemic and hopefully I'll be vaccinated by September here in Québec. This will enable me and my family to be able to travel back to Europe and get back to normal where I spend several months each year living there to spend time with family and friends...home away from home sort'uv speak.

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    MAP: Which Swedish regions have stricter coronavirus measures in place?

    The Local
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    26 February 2021
    12:01 CET

    Updated
    25 March 2021
    11:55 CET
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    Most of the local recommendations include mask-wearing at all times in public transport and to avoid non-necessary travel. Photo: Janerik Henriksson/TT

    Ten of Sweden's regions have stricter coronavirus recommendations in place in response to local outbreaks and the spread of more infectious variants of Covid-19. Here are the things you need to do to protect the people around you.


    The information below was accurate at the time of publication, but please be aware that the situation is changing fast. You can also keep up-to-date with the recommendations via Krisinformation or your region’s website.

    As of March 25th, Gävleborg, Halland, Jämtland, Norrbotten, Stockholm, Södermanland, Uppsala, Västerbotten, Västmanland and Västra Götaland all had regional coronavirus measures in place, in addition to the recommendations which continue to apply everywhere in the country.

    Nationwide, everyone in Sweden should work from home if they can, and limit their close contacts to a small number of people – for example, the people you live with or a small number of friends if you live alone.

    Scroll down to see what you should be doing in your region.

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    Gävleborg
    • Wear a disposable face mask in indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided. This includes at all times on public transport, during healthcare visits such as at the doctor, and if necessary at the workplace, and applies to people born in 2004 or later. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • If you are working at a business where a major outbreak is taking place, you are asked to avoid spending time “in the community” and limit your social contacts. The businesses this applies to will be contacted directly by the region.
    • These measures are in place until further notice.
    Halland

    • Wear a disposable face mask in indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided. This includes at all times on public transport, when visiting healthcare, and if necessary at the workplace or in other environments. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public, avoid public transport if possible and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • These measures are currently in place until further notice.
    Jämtland

    • Jämtland has asked employers to increase their infection prevention efforts, specifically by: telling staff to work from home when possible and providing the right conditions for this; postpone business trips, conferences and similar events or hold them digitally; ensure employees have the chance to keep 1.5-2 metres’ distance from each other at all times including at meetings, lunch, breaks and in changing rooms; scheduling lunch and fika breaks if possible to limit the number of people.
    • These measures are currently in place until at least April 11th.
    • You can read more on the regional website here.
    Norrbotten

    • Wear a disposable face mask in indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided. This includes at all times on public transport, when visiting healthcare, and if necessary at the workplace or in other environments. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public, avoid public transport if possible and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • These measures are currently in place until further notice.
    Stockholm

    • Wear a disposable face mask in public transport at all times and in other indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided, such as in shops, at workplaces if you cannot work from home, or when visiting healthcare facilities. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • Avoid shops and shopping centres where there is a risk of crowding. If you have to shop, wear a face mask.
    • Only socialise with the people you live with or, if you live alone, only with a small number of friends.
    • Avoid all unnecessary travel to, from and within the region.
    • These measures are currently in place until at least May 2nd.
    Södermanland

    • Wear a disposable face mask in public transport at all times and in other indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • Avoid public places with a risk of crowding: public transport, shops and shopping centres.
    • All adults on school premises should keep 1.5-2 metres distance from each other both during work and breaks.
    • Avoid all unnecessary travel to, from and within the region.
    • These measures are currently in place until at least April 6th.
    Uppsala

    • Wear a disposable face mask in public transport at all times and in other indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided, for example in hairdressers and shops. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • Avoid all non-necessary travel to, from and within the region. Only carry out essential journeys, for example to and from a job that cannot be done from home. For these journeys, try to avoid busy times.
    • These measures are currently in place until at least March 30th.
    Västerbotten

    • If you work in a business where a major outbreak of Covid-19 is ongoing, avoid spending time “in the community”. This means avoiding public places where you are likely to come into contact with people outside your close circle, but purchases of food and medicines can be carried out.
    • Wear a disposable face mask in public transport at all times and in other indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • Avoid places where there is a risk of crowding, for example shops and shopping centres.
    • Avoid all non-necessary travel to, from and within the region.
    • Limit the number of people you have contact with by socialising only with the people you live with or a small circle.
    • These measures are currently in place until at least April 18th.
    Västmanland

    • Avoid all non-necessary travel both within and outside the region.
    • Avoid public places with a risk of crowding: public transport, shops and shopping centres. Shop at less busy times, spend as little time as possible in shops, and shop alone rather than with other people.
    • Wear a disposable face mask in public transport at all times, during all visits to healthcare, and in other indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided, such as in shops and at hairdressers. This applies to people born in 2004 or earlier does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public, only use public transport if necessary, and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • These measures are currently in place until at least April 11th.
    Västra Götaland

    • Avoid all non-necessary travel.
    • Avoid public places with a risk of crowding: public transport, shops and shopping centres. Shop at less busy times, spend as little time as possible in shops, and shop alone rather than with other people.
    • Wear a disposable face mask in public transport at all times, during visits to healthcare, and in other indoor environments where close contact with other people cannot be avoided. This does not replace the national recommendation to keep distance from others in public and to avoid close contact with people outside your close circle.
    • Upper secondary schools should not allow more than a third of the school’s student to be on site at the same time.
    • These measures are initially in place until at least April 18th.
    Nationally

    • Limit your close contacts by only having contact with a small circle of close family and/or friends; the people you live with, or if you live alone, a small number of friends.
    • Always keep your distance (1.5-2 metres) from people you meet. Meet outdoors if you can, but keep distance from others even outdoors.
    • Wear a face mask in public transport between 7-9am and 4-6pm on weekdays (as well as in any situations specified by your region).
    • Avoid public transport and forms of transport where you cannot book a designated seat, as much as possible. If you must travel, try to travel outside busy periods.
    • If you have any symptoms of the coronavirus (such as a cold, sore throat, fever, or headache), stay at home, get a coronavirus test, and do not have contact with anyone. If someone in your family or who you have met tests positive for Covid-19 or is awaiting a test result, you should stay home and avoid contact with other people, get tested as soon as possible and take a second test five days later.
    • Work from home if you can. In workplaces where this is not possible, employers and individuals are responsible for keeping distance (a minimum of 1.5-2 metres between people including during work, meetings and breaks) and minimising the number of close contacts they have.
    • Avoid shops and shopping centres if there is a risk of crowding, including by choosing to visit shops outside usual busy times, by keeping your visit as short as possible, and shopping alone rather than with a friend or family member.
    • If you return to Sweden from foreign travel, you should self-isolate for at least seven days, and get tested for Covid-19 as soon as possible after arrival (if you did not need to show a negative test to enter the country) and on the fifth day after arriving (this applies to everyone).
    • You can find out more information from the Swedish authorities at KrisInformation.se, 1177.se and are also welcome to contact us at news@thelocal.se if you have questions.
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  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Preliminary data from EU statistics agency Eurostat compiled by Reuters showed Sweden had 7.7% more deaths in 2020 than its average for the preceding four years. Noting that the statistics for Sweden are not complete for 2020 yet. However, Sweden did much worse than its Nordic neighbours, with Denmark registering just 1.5% excess mortality and Finland 1.0%. Norway had no excess mortality at all in 2020.
     
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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Exactly and I still remember the troll in this thread that intentionally tried to pass off misinformation in this thread about Sweden's deaths in 2020 as being within its norm. Just as bad, the same trolls show up to like the message post by the Covidiot in an effort to try to give bullshit support for the "opinion" when its really just misinformation.

    It's Covid misinformation like that being allowed without any consequences.

    High Excess Mortality

    The above words out of Sweden itself...used by Sweden Health Officials and Tegnell himself late last year.

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    #2827     Mar 25, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    you know why this dishonest asshole gwb-lying did not provide a link.....
    because the selfish fear mongering douchebag did not want anyone to read the headline...



    Sweden saw lower 2020 death spike than much of Europe - data



    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-spike-than-much-of-europe-data-idUSKBN2BG1R9

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    Preliminary data from EU statistics agency Eurostat compiled by Reuters showed Sweden had 7.7% more deaths in 2020 than its average for the preceding four years. Countries that opted for several periods of strict lockdowns, such as Spain and Belgium, had so-called excess mortality of 18.1% and 16.2% respectively.

    Twenty-one of the 30 countries with available statistics had higher excess mortality than Sweden. However, Sweden did much worse than its Nordic neighbours, with Denmark registering just 1.5% excess mortality and Finland 1.0%. Norway had no excess mortality at all in 2020.



     
    #2828     Mar 25, 2021
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  9. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    But how is that possible with no masks no lockdowns no social distancing????
    GWB acts as if herd immunity can only come through vaccines.
     
    #2829     Mar 25, 2021
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  10. wrbtrader

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    Sweden and Denmark plan digital Covid vaccine certificates for travel

    Nordic countries hopeful documents could also be used for entry to certain events.

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    Agence France-Presse in Stockholm

    Thu 4 Feb 2021 17.06 GMT
    Last modified on Thu 4 Feb 2021 17.25 GMT

    Sweden has announced it is to start developing digital vaccine certificates, to be used for travel and potentially more, following a similar move by Denmark a day earlier.

    The two Nordic countries have said the coronavirus vaccine certificates would be designed to enable citizens to travel abroad, but also hinted they could potentially be used to check whether someone was vaccinated if they were attending something like a sports or cultural event.

    “With a digital vaccine certificate it will be quick and easy to prove a completed vaccination,” Sweden’s minister for digital development, Anders Ygeman, said in a statement.

    The Swedish government said it hoped to have the infrastructure to issue digital certificates in place by June.

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    Denmark, which announced its program a day earlier, said they would initially publish a registry online that could be accessed to check someone’s vaccination status, which it hopes to have in place in late February, while it develops a long-term technical solution.

    While the Danish government said it would hold off a final decision on whether the “corona passports” could be used for more than just travel purposes – pending more research into whether vaccinated people could still transmit the virus – the aim is that it will “contribute to a gradual, sound and appropriate reopening of Denmark”.

    “It is absolutely crucial, for us to be able to restart Danish society, that companies can get back on track,” the acting finance minister, Morten Bødskov, said in a statement.

    Both countries also said that efforts would be made to make the national certificates compatible with international certificates being discussed at the World Health Organization and at the EU level.

    The WHO has floated the idea of digital certificates for the vaccine in the past but in January said it was for the moment opposed to them being used as a requirement for travel.

    European commission chief, Ursula von der Leyen, in January backed the idea of using certificates to identify people who have had the jab, but added that “whether that gives a priority or access to certain goods, this is a political and legal decision that has to be discussed on the European level”.

    Christian Wigand, a spokesman for the commission, on Thursday reiterated to reporters that the issue had been “discussed at the last European council meeting between the heads of state and government and it was concluded that the work on a standardised, interoperable form of proof of vaccination for medical purposes should continue”.

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    • Asked about whether countries could move forward individually, Wigand simply said that “we have always been pushing for more coordination, we will continue to do so, especially when it comes to travel and travel restrictions”.
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