In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Remember when Sweden had a weaker than normal 2019 total deaths number?
    Remember when Sweden had more LTC facilities than its direct neighbors?
    Remember when Sweden had a lower death per capital from covid than many of its European neighbors but without masks and lockdowns?
     
    #2701     Mar 2, 2021
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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    What Sweden will be remembered for is killing more of its citizens with its failed “natural herd immunity” policy than any of its nearby neighbors. A policy that according to the Prime Minister and King of the country failed completely.
     
    #2702     Mar 3, 2021
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    More on mask mandates not working.

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    And before GWB gets his panties in a wad over the source (which is the same source as before on Twitter), please allow me to show the data proof:

    Identical chart on Worldometers

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    As for the mandate date,

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    But...but...Collier County!!
     
    #2703     Mar 3, 2021
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  4. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Kings and politicians are wrong.
    Average age of death in Sweden from COVID is at life expectancy age. People die. Viruses virus.
    Sweden was the model.
     
    #2704     Mar 3, 2021
  5. jem

    jem

    #2705     Mar 3, 2021
  6. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    #2706     Mar 3, 2021
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Stockholm healthcare chief: ‘The third wave of Covid-19 is here’

    Updated
    3 March 2021
    14:55 CET

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    Stockholm's acting healthcare chief Johan Bratt. Photo: Carl-Olof Zimmerman/TT
    Stockholm's head of healthcare has warned that the third wave of the coronavirus is already affecting the capital region, with the number of new cases almost having doubled in three weeks.

    A total of 318 patients were being treated in Stockholm’s hospitals for Covid-19 on Wednesday, 48 of them in intensive care units – an increase from 29 less than two weeks previously.

    “We have a third wave of infection and it’s here now,” the acting head of healthcare Johan Bratt said at a press conference.

    For three weeks in a row, the number of new cases has risen by around 25 percent. Last week a total of 6,336 new cases of Covid-19 were reported, up from 3,225 new cases three weeks earlier.

    “The more contacts we have, the more people are infected. The absolute most important thing you can do now is, all the time, to avoid all forms of crowding and continue keeping distance in all environments,” Bratt said.
    See also on The Local:

    “It is not OK to go against the guidelines and recommendations. Those who do so are not only risking their life and health, but that of everyone they meet. Every deviation from the recommendations brings with it an increased risk of spreading the infection, of an increased need for healthcare, and increased mortality.”

    Bratt also commented on the rate of vaccination in Stockholm, which has so far vaccinated the lowest proportion of its adult residents out of Sweden’s 21 regions.

    “The lack of vaccine is the main thing that limits the pace of vaccination in the region,” he said. “It is not reasonable that concerned residents cannot be told when they will get the vaccine.”

    He said that starting next week, the region would send out information on how older Stockholmers can receive the vaccination, with over-80s being called for the jab first, and everyone included in this age group set to receive a letter over the next two weeks.

    People aged 70-79 are currently expected to be offered their vaccination from March 29th onwards, but this depends on the vaccine deliveries going according to plan, Bratt said. He added that he hoped to be able to share information for 65-69-year-olds and other prioritised groups soon, but that this was not yet possible.

    The letters would include information in Swedish and English, as well as a summary in eight further languages.
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    #2707     Mar 4, 2021
  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    The below article out of Sweden doesn't use the phrase "long haulers" in reference to those that tested positive for Covid-19 and continues to have symptoms many months. It's a phrase used mainly in North America by those that had been infected with Covid-19 many months ago and still suffer symptoms today.

    Yet, I believe that's what they are talking about in the below Sweden article.

    It reminds me of a few in this thread that had bragged about getting Covid-19 in the prior Sweden thread and saying its "not a big deal"...just like the Flu.

    Yet, at that time, they had not discussed any "long haulers" symptoms and now I wonder if they still feel the same way...many months later...it's "not a big deal".

    Just important, they put a great emphasis on the fact that Sweden did not lockdown to avoid damaging their economy and avoid other residual negative impact of a lockdown that increases mental illness and such.

    Strangely, Sweden not locking down...didn't accomplish their goals. In another article posted earlier in the prior thread and in this thread...Sweden GDP took a dive and problems with mental illness did in fact...increase.

    Long haulers symptoms, increase anxiety, increase mental illness, declining GDP...a country that did not lockdown as shown in the below article about long haulers and older articles last year about the increasing mental illness in Sweden.

    Something else important, in other countries that did not lockdown like South Korea...the risk for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) increased for both the survivors of these diseases and healthcare workers (Lee et al., 2018) and psychiatric symptoms remained elevated up to six months.

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    More than 4,000 people in Sweden have been signed off work long-term due to Covid


    TT/The Local
    news@thelocal.se
    @thelocalsweden

    4 March 2021
    10:17 CET

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    Some people who get infected with Covid-19 report symptoms ranging from a fever to breathing and heart problems for many months afterwards. Photo: Anders Wiklund/TT

    Almost a year after authorities confirmed community spread of the coronavirus in Sweden, thousands have suffered from long-term effects of the virus, known as long Covid.


    New figures from the Social Insurance Agency show that more than 4,600 people have been signed off work due to Covid-19 for at least three months.

    In February, 156 people reached a full year of being signed off work for long Covid, and around 1,000 more are expected to reach that milestone over the next two months.

    Those figures refer to people who were initially signed off due to Covid-19, but around 40 percent of those have had their diagnosis changed since first being signed off.

    Since first being signed off, around 40 percent of those who were initially signed off sick due to Covid-19 have had their diagnosis changed, including to mental health conditions (around 800), joint or muscle problems (around 300), or other illnesses (around 800), including those affecting the heart or nervous systems. Because Covid-19 is still a relatively new illness and little is known about its long-term effects, it’s not clear if these are related.

    “We do not know if the change in diagnosis is a result of Covid, or if it these people are actually healthy from Covid and then have fallen ill with a completely different disease,” Terese Östlin, national insurance coordinator at the Swedish Social Insurance Agency, told TT.

    She said that the lack of knowledge around long Covid and its possible treatments or cures could cause problems for sickness benefit applications.

    “There is a risk that the doctors may have difficulty substantiating the sick leave to us, which in turn may lead to us not having sufficient support to be able to grant sickness benefit,” said Östlin.

    So far, the proportion of applications for sick leave due to Covid-19 is low at around three percent.

    In Sweden, most workers are eligible for sickness payment for the first 180 days of illness if they are unable to work for their current employer, and it may be extended after that if they are unable to perform any work on the labour market, not just at their current employer.

    Sickness benefit is generally equivalent 80 percent of the worker’s qualifying income for the first full year, after which the amount is reduced to 75 percent. However, workers affected by a serious illness can apply to keep their sickness benefit at 80 percent.
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    #2708     Mar 6, 2021
  9. LacesOut

    LacesOut



    Sweden was the model
     
    #2709     Mar 6, 2021
  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Stay Informed...

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    The next graph is more interesting about the Deaths via Covid-19...

    Compare it to a prior graph that I posted and you'll see a starting difference about 2020 for the age groups of Sweden's people > 60 years of age. Simply, 2020 was a disaster year...far ABOVE the norm...

    Admitted as such by the Swedish Health Officials. They stated the following...
    • Since beginning of March, there has been a clear and consistent excess mortality in all ages above 60 years in Swede, and men experience higher levels of excess mortality than women in ages up to 75 years.

    • Among the very oldest, the mortality increase with age has been disproportional if this is a factor of age itself or comorbidity remains to be explored.
    In some of the prior posted articles in this thread...the Swedish Health Officials used the phrase "high excess mortality" above the expected mortality rates.

    Sweden-80-90-Age-Covid-19-Death-Group-2020.png

    Conclusion

    Sweden, and especially the Stockholm region, has suffered from excess mortality at all ages from 60 years and older. From June and onwards mortality has reached the level of previous years. Persons above age 80 have been disproportionally affected, and in ages up to 75 years men suffer higher excess levels than women...

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    The above is saying the reasons for the excess mortality occurred between January - June 2020 because of the Pandemic and then after June...deaths reached levels as prior years (as in normal/near the mean).

    Here's a comparison between Sweden / Norway for years 2015 - 2019 and then in comparison to 2019 - 2020 to come to the exact same conclusion as Sweden's Health Officials...

    High Excess Mortality but its in reference to the period between January - June because June going forward...mortality begins to mean revert.

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    This isn't rocket science...Sweden screwed up in 2020 and their government and health officials admitted such. Not sure why people outside of Sweden has such a difficult time in believing what Sweden is telling the public...

    Worst, some of these individuals try to spin their own misinformation campaign while blogging on social media.

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    #2710     Mar 6, 2021