In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    'Worrying trend': The latest numbers to know about the coronavirus in Sweden
    https://www.thelocal.se/20210209/wo...mbers-to-know-about-the-coronavirus-in-sweden
    9 February 2021

    Sweden has given a first dose of the coronavirus vaccine to almost 4 percent of all adults, but the Public Health Agency warned that the decline in cases appeared to have tailed off.

    State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said that the downward trend Sweden has reported over recent weeks appeared to have stagnated, with the number of newly reported cases remaining steady.

    "It is a bit worrying that the downward trend has tailed off. We will have a difficult situation regarding Covid for large parts of this winter," he said.

    Over the past 14 days, Sweden reported 387 confirmed Covid-19 cases per 100,000 residents.

    There are still variations around the country, and the figure was 525 per 100,000 residents and 465 in Västerbotten, where stricter local coronavirus measures were brought in on Tuesday in response to a sharp rise in cases and local outbreaks linked to schools and one workplace.

    (More at above url)
     
    #2371     Feb 9, 2021
  2. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    Dont these people understand this isn’t a fucking pandemic? It’s a syndemic that is based on seasonality and comorbidity and testing availability. Not some stupid mask or lockdown or THIS vaccine can do fuckkkk all about it.
     
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    #2372     Feb 9, 2021
  3. Scared people wear masks. They might even wear them for the rest of their lives.
     
    #2373     Feb 9, 2021
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #2374     Feb 10, 2021
  5. jem

    jem

    #2375     Feb 11, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    'Threat to democracy?': Why an online campaign group criticising Sweden's coronavirus strategy has caused a stir
    https://www.thelocal.se/20210211/th...wedens-coronavirus-strategy-has-caused-a-stir

    An online campaign group for fierce critics of Sweden's coronavirus strategy has been accused of being "a threat to democracy" and trying to influence foreign governments to tighten travel restrictions for Swedes.
    Here's what you need to know.

    Swedish public broadcaster Sveriges Radio reported on a social media group made up of people critical of Sweden's coronavirus strategy, accusing them of "trying to influence Swedish interests overseas".

    The group in question, Media Watchdogs of Sweden, describes its aim on its Twitter account as "exposing the failed Swedish COVID-19 strategy and advocating for the prosecution of the architects of the strategy in international courts".

    Sweden's Public Health Agency has criticised the group following the report, with the agency's head of press describing the report as "unpleasant and shocking".

    Sveriges Radio said that the Facebook group's moderator posted about attempts to "influence governments in Europe to have quarantine rules for Swedes traveling abroad and to keep the borders closed to Sweden" by contacting embassies and authorities across Europe.

    The group is not alone in all of its criticism of the Swedish strategy. Sweden's king, prime minister, state epidemiologist, and an independent commission set up to investigate the response have all said that the country "failed" to protect the vulnerable elderly, a key pillar of the strategy from March last year.

    Multiple researchers have been critical of the strategy from an early stage, and in particular the reliance on recommendations rather than the kind of legally-binding rules that were being imposed in other countries. Sweden did not recommend masks to be worn by the general public until January 2021, and shops, hairdressers, gyms and schools for under-16s have never been closed at a national level.

    Following Sveriges Radio's report the Public Health Agency's press spokesman implied that the campaign group's contact with foreign media was linked to "mistakes and half-truths" about the Swedish strategy in international media, but no specific examples of disinformation were given.

    But one of the group's founders defended the tone, telling the Expressen newspaper: "I come from Ireland and there we are much more direct [...] In Sweden, it seems to be a method for disarming someone in a debate, to portray them as problematic and against Swedish values."

    There has also been criticism of the Sveriges Radio report from other journalists and scientists.

    Anders Vahlne, a professor in virology and member of the separate group Science Forum Covid-19, told Dagens Media that there was limited room for critical opinions in Swedish media.

    "It seems to be a classic crisis behaviour that everyone joins behind the government and authorities. But I am still surprised that the media have so passively followed what the authorities said. At the same time, the political opposition has for a long time followed the government," he said.

    A group of around 20 scientific researchers (including some who are members of the Facebook group) have published opinion pieces in Dagens Nyheter criticising the country's strategy, and some have argued there has been insufficient questioning of the Public Health Agency by the media.

    Beyond only criticising of the Swedish strategy, the Sveriges Radio article accuses the Facebook group of trying to influence foreign countries' policies towards Sweden.

    The LinkedIn page of the founder states that in his role in the group, he "successfully lobbied Members of the European Parliament" as well as securing press coverage for members of the group. The founder of Media Watchdogs of Sweden, Keith Begg, has been featured in several international news articles, including by Business Insider, Norway's NRK, and News in Australia, but all of these outlets disclosed that Begg was an active campaigner against the strategy.

    It takes place against the backdrop of heightened tension in the Swedish public debate about the country's coronavirus strategy, a debate that has often become abusive on both sides.

    Scientist Emma Frans described the Media Watchdogs of Sweden group as a "threat to democracy", saying that she had turned off comments on her tweets and that she knew of researchers who no longer commented on the coronavirus in the media due to harassment.

    Some protesters have accused the Public Health Agency and other authorities deliberately or through negligence of causing unnecessary deaths. On its Twitter account, the Media Watchdogs of Sweden group has described the Swedish coronavirus strategy as "similar to Nazi ideology" and in particular highlighted reports of elderly people not being offered treatment.

    Meanwhile, Norway's state epidemiologist Frode Forland reported abuse after he said he did not agree with the Swedish strategy entirely. Readers of The Local have reported receiving xenophobic social media abuse after criticising the strategy, while others said they had been coughed at or threatened for the act of wearing a face mask.
     
    #2376     Feb 11, 2021
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  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I find this article hilarious because jem and a few others here at ET are worried about you via slinging silly repetitive arguments, profanity and name calling.

    You're a person that lives in Europe (I think) while jem and his minions do not live in Europe nor Sweden nor explained their interest in the failed natural herd immunity experiment and the absurd theory of adopting Sweden's health care policy for the U.S. in the middle of a Pandemic.

    The individuals (group) in the article actually have a vested interest in revealing the Pandemic health care policies in Europe / Scandinavian countries.

    wrbtrader
     
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    #2377     Feb 11, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    I think its hilarious that a lefty moron from Canada puts me on ignore, blocks me from reading his posts... and then writes about me. I saw this first on my phone...

    a. What a spineless douchebag thing to do. Anybody who puts someone on block and then attacks them is the highest from of no backbone loser...

    Plus I think Baron has kicked people off for doing that.

    1.

    Natural Herd immunity may be working to some degree around the world right now.
    Unfortunately it seems the anti bodies do degrade, so its not perfect.
    But, I am sure its why health care workers and others interacting with people every day have not been wiped out.

    2.

    Nobody denies that the Swedes failed to properly protect the elderly in the beginning.

    After they protected the nursing homes... they have done quite well... without the mandatory lockdowns and limited masking.

    3.

    Morons like GWBelying keep posting propaganda and frequent misrepresentations regarding how well the Swedes have done.

    So I respond with facts and data... and some name calling... because gwBe-lies his ass off.
     
    #2378     Feb 11, 2021
  9. LacesOut

    LacesOut

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    #2379     Feb 12, 2021
  10. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Poor Jem,

    He request Covid-19 facts. I posted it (copy / paste) to him and he replies he doesn't reads my messages.

    Reason why he's now on "ignore" because he publicly stated he does not read my messages plus he throws in some name calling even though he was not called any names and he requested the Covid-19 stats. :rolleyes:

    Simply, don't tell someone you do not read their messages after requesting them to post some info and then behave like a child with the name calling...
    • The constant nasty replies...nobody wants to have a conversation with someone like that especially someone that states they don't read my messages.
    Quick way to make it on my ignore list. Worst, don't whine about being put on ignore especially after stating you do not read the messages when doubting Covid-19 stats that were copy/paste plus with the direct link to the Covid statistical site.

    Most of the Covid stats, graphs, articles and other data posted in this thread...weird to go off the deep end as if its impacting his life in California when its just copied info from another site. :rolleyes:

    wrbtrader
     
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    #2380     Feb 12, 2021
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