In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. jem

    jem

    The articles are everywhere... but we have selfish SOBs like
    gwBe-lying...

    lying about the issue... to protect his selfish fears.

    https://www.edweek.org/leadership/c...fter-covid-19-hit-what-schools-can-do/2020/11
    • New federal data confirms what teachers and parents have been worrying about for months: The pandemic is taking a striking toll on children’s mental health.

      New data from the Centers for Disease Control show the proportion of emergency department visits related to mental health crises has increased dramatically for young children and adolescents since the pandemic started.

      From this March through October, the share of mental health-related hospital emergency department visits rose 24 percent for children ages 5 to 11 and 31 percent among adolescents ages 12 to 17, when compared to the same period in 2019, the CDC reported based on a federal health surveillance program. While the CDC does not record whether a patient reported a mental health emergency as a result of a disaster, all of the mental health emergencies included stress, anxiety, acute posttraumatic stress disorder, or panic. As the chart below shows, the share of mental health visits for every 100,000 pediatric hospital emergency visits each week rose steadily beginning about three months into the pandemic:

    And there are myriad more articles... for the non selfish...
    for instance...



    Rise in suicides prompted by pandemic is met with lack of U.S. ...
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    Nov 23, 2020 — ... have struggled with suicidal thoughts since the coronavirus hit, CDC says. ... and brother Ethan — try to celebrate his life daily in Richland, Wash. ... and 2018, suicides increased 56 percent among teens and young adults.



    CDC: Depression and anxiety rises for US adults since Covid ...
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    #2221     Jan 14, 2021
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yeah.... only your would dismiss a deadly disease which kills in 2% of the cases and has long term health effects in many others.

    Once again let's go to the facts -- Sweden has abandoned its "herd immunity" strategy with the Prime Minister stating is was a complete failure. The country is instituting restrictions and lockdowns to deal with COVID. The era of "no lockdowns", "only lockdown the at-risk", "natural herd immunity" and the "Great Barrington Declaration" is over. All of these failed ideas which cost many lives have been buried in the dustbin of history.
     
    #2222     Jan 14, 2021
  3. jem

    jem

    You lying selfish moron. I am not dismissing anything. I am saying we should have done much better than you moron pro govt bullshit plans.

    did you read this...

    "New data from the Centers for Disease Control show the proportion of emergency department visits related to mental health crises has increased dramatically for young children and adolescents since the pandemic started."

    --

    I have been saying since March we should be isolating and protecting the high risk.
    But we must also factor in the damage we doing to others including kids.




     
    #2223     Jan 14, 2021
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Once again.... The era of nonsense from COVID deniers like yourself with "no lockdowns", "only lockdown the at-risk", "natural herd immunity" and the "Great Barrington Declaration" is over. All of these failed ideas which cost many lives have been buried in the dustbin of history. It's time for you to accept reality and facts.

    These are all unscientific, failed ideas you have pushed regularly -- driving policy makers to decisions which have caused 1000s of deaths. Anyone who pushed faulty, nonsensical proposals on dealing with a deadly public health crisis is part of the problem.
     
    #2224     Jan 14, 2021
  5. jem

    jem

    More comedy from you... "science"
    You have lied about the science and data we have produced too many times to count.


     
    #2225     Jan 14, 2021
  6. LacesOut

    LacesOut

    The failed policies of lockdowns and masks have caused 1000s of unnecessary deaths.
    viruses virus. Sweden showed that. Almost all the places that locked down and mask mandates are having much higher rates of death.
    you talk about long term health effects. Yes viruses can do that. Viruses virus. But so what? People get viruses. They get sick. They die. Make sure you thank China for it...they are so happy you are petrified of their gain of function coronavirus that they can’t stop celebrating.
    Thankfully it’s not a serious virus. Sweden showed us that. No major changes in deaths year over year with virtually zero lockdown measures taken. It’s endemic and not serious. Sweden is the model!!!! CONFIRMED BY FACTS!!
     
    #2226     Jan 14, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Enjoy your alt-fact fantasy.
     
    #2227     Jan 14, 2021
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    After nearly a year of you constantly pushing false information, unscientific proposals, and failed public health policies... the judgement is in. The crap you pushed has not only failed but has been proven to be pure nonsense --- but has been backed away from by all reasonable people.
     
    #2228     Jan 14, 2021
  9. jem

    jem

    Hey moron....

    Why do you deny we have 2 studies one from the CDC and one with a 3000 person control group which shows that masks did not protect the wearers vs the control. Even those who wore them all the time?

    Hey moron... why can't you produce significant data (or any) that Covid spreads outdoors during normal activities?


    Hey moron... why do you repeatedly deny that we could not protect the high risk better by focusing on them directly... instead of in anity like closing down the beaches and parks in CA when when the Governor had no data to show there is significant spread in those places?


     
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    #2229     Jan 14, 2021
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    This is what happens to your political party when you put forward a failed public health policy that kills thousands of people...

    Sweden’s Social Democrats succumb to coronavirus critics
    Stefan Löfven’s party loses top poll spot and gets a hiding in parliament.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-social-democrats-stefan-lofven-coronavirus-critics/

    Criticism of the Swedish government’s light-touch coronavirus strategy looks like it is starting to stick with voters.

    An opinion poll this week showed Prime Minister Stefan Löfven’s Social Democrats lost the top spot at the start of January after the death rate from COVID-19 spiked and recommendations in place to fight the spread of disease were breached by a number of government figures.

    During a party leaders’ debate in parliament on Wednesday, Ebba Busch, who heads the opposition Christian Democrats, sought to inflict further damage, saying the government’s strategy — which has seen shops, borders and many schools left open — was flawed from the start.

    For the first time, she claimed that last spring Löfven himself had, in meetings with other party leaders, pushed the advantages of letting coronavirus spread in society so that immunity to the disease could more quickly be achieved and the risk of a second wave reduced — thinking that is now widely debunked.

    She said the government had taken decisions that it knew would lead to higher infection rates.

    “That he dares not to admit those failings now, when the death rate is so high, that is for me incomprehensible,” she told reporters as she left the chamber.

    Löfven denied Busch’s claim.

    “Totally wrong,” he told reporters. “We have never thought that we should allow infection rates to rise as some kind of solution.”

    The sharper tone reflects both the seriousness of the pandemic in Sweden — which has seen nearly 10,000 deaths — and the questions which still swirl over the Nordic state’s long-standing refusal to follow most of the rest of Europe into lockdown.

    ‘Too little, too late’
    Last Friday, 10 months after the pandemic hit, parliament finally granted the government the powers it would need to shut private businesses such as shops, gyms and sports halls.

    A week later, it hasn’t used them, despite one of the fastest rates of virus spread in Europe.

    While the U.K, with a similar rate of spread, shut nonessential shops this month, the head of Sweden’s Public Health Agency Johan Carlson again questioned the impact of such a measure.

    “To believe you can shut shops and get a big effect of the spread of infection, I think that is to make a mistake,” he said.

    Even as doctors in Sweden’s biggest cities say hospitals are close to capacity, Swedes can still play tennis indoors.

    The only visible change this week was a new rule forcing business owners to post signs on their doors saying how many visitors are allowed in. Each visitor is to have 10 square meters of space, but few businesses appear to be counting how many people enter and checks by local authorities to ensure compliance have been slow to start.

    At a small local supermarket on the edge of Stockholm on a recent weekday, a sign had been posted stating 65 people were allowed in.

    “Have there ever even been 65 people in here at the same time?” muttered one patron as she entered.

    Critics of the government — such as the virologist and author Lena Einhorn — who have long called for tighter restrictions say the government’s attempts to justify what it did earlier in the pandemic risk stopping it from making the right decisions now.

    “They cannot admit to having made mistakes and having been wrong, so everything is incremental and too little, too late,” Einhorn said.

    In the parliament on Wednesday, Busch, the Christian Democrat Party leader, said even the much-criticized U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, with his belated lockdown decision, had done better than Löfven.

    “I hear snorts from the government benches here, but Johnson has set a good example: He changed direction when he saw that his coronavirus strategy didn’t work.”
     
    #2230     Jan 14, 2021