Here's a question...I've counted 5 different individuals in this thread and a dozen more in other threads about their comments that Covid-19 restrictions / targeted closures / quarantines / border closures... Do Not Work. Can any of the Covidiots explain why restrictions, lockdown lite, border closures, quarantines worked very well in Sweden considering the Covidiots believe its a failure ??? I know there will not be an answer from the Covidiots but I already know the answer. Hint: It's the re-opening process that failed. Now imagine what their data will look like if they had recommendations or mandates for face mask wear. Sweden would be in the top performances against Covid-19...up there with New Zealand, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea even though those countries have their own individual Covidiots too. Good luck in debating about the successful results of Sweden's lockdown lite / restrictions / quarantines / border closures. wrbtrader
what don't you read them.. and comprehend what an average is... if you don't have a report for three days... you might have a big pop on the day you do report. that does not mean... what you wrote.... "Just a hint... every day recently reports over 100 new COVID deaths in Sweden..." --- Look below moron...Sweden is lower in today's report than yesterday... using your favorite data... That is far lower than 100 deaths a day. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavi...othing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc
to wrb... some countries have lower deaths so far during the second wave... in fact most the countries I lock at have lower deaths per day so far. Some of that would be attributable to better care. Some might think the highest risk of death were already picked off by this virus. But... I think most of us would agree with closing the border and locking down the high risk are going to yield better results. so you are not going to get an argument out of me on that. I have problem with not specifically designing programs to protect the high risk while allowing the low risk to live their lives. So far most govts have failed twice using their half assed approaches.
And once again you don’t know the difference between the reports and allocation by date (which is delayed). Thanks for demonstrating once again your inability to comprehend the basics. Hint: Sweden did not report today due to the holiday.
Did Sweden Report yesterday? Would that show up in today's update? Today is the 24th. But...Today's update says the 23rd. Yesterday the update showed us the 22nd. We do not get real time reporting... moron. https://ourworldindata.org/coronavi...othing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc Seriously.. .Covid causes your IQ to apparently go so low you don't think in systems. You should not get into any Covid analysis... when challenged you are wrong about 90% of the time. You must just report facts. ==== Finally you moron... for wasting my time with stupidity. Until you actually have proof for what you think... please shut up and stop acting like you know more than I do. I can make mistakes, once in a while, true... but I look at data before I speak... You are the one that had a problem with Sweden's official data where they do reconcile the data to the date of death. So we switched to looking at the Johns Hopkins data... the point of that being John's Hopkins does not reconcile the data to the date of death. (from what I read.) We showed that too you recently. So you can't make that argument about reconciling to the date of death when we look at the Hopkin's data.
And still you don't understand the reporting and allocation in Sweden despite it being explained many times with references being provided many times. At this point you are just deliberately being thick to aggregate people. Let's get to the bottom line: "Natural herd immunity" does not exist for COVID. You are pushing bullshiat. Sweden's COVID policy failed terribly. Even their Prime Minister stated this directly. Only an idiot would uphold Sweden as a model for dealing with COVID.
Why do you constantly lie instead of adjusting to the truth. a. I have proven to you... that Sweden reports the data... and then on their official website they reconcile that data to the date of death. b. You and one of your favorite websites did not like that... they preferred to compare apples to apples since just about all the other countries just leave the batch data batched... So you and your preferred website decided to use Hopkin's data. OK fine... I can handle new variables... I adjusted. c. You lied and said Hopkins still reconciled the data to the date of death. Which is so dumb... So I showed you using your own chart... Hopkins does not reconcile the data to the date of death... because you could plainly see that every few days there were zero death days... and we know Swedes still die on Saturday Sunday and Monday... Why are you being such a dickhead and arguing that point? Why is that so hard for you to be honest about?
Stefan Löfven is desperately trying to save his job after his countries disastrous COVID-19 response. Many think this is the end of the line for him after allowing his country to pursue an absurd and failed "natural herd immunity" policy. How Sweden’s prime minister plans to save his career from coronavirus https://www.politico.eu/article/stefan-lofven-sweden-coronavirus-escape/
Sweden’s Covid-19 failures have exposed the myths of the lockdown-sceptics The “herd immunity” strategy that led to a disastrous Swedish death rate would have been even more dangerous in the UK. https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...failures-have-exposed-myths-lockdown-sceptics Many strange things happened in 2020, but one of the strangest was the romance between Britain’s Covid-sceptics and Sweden. It turned out to be an ill-fated one, ending in tragedy, but it was intense while it lasted. For much of this year, those who object to measures to control the virus have hailed Sweden as a libertarian paradise, supposedly showing us how Covid-19 could be kept under control without intrusive government restrictions. Of late, these champions have fallen silent. It’s not hard to explain why. Recent days have seen Sweden’s Nordic neighbours Finland and Norway offering emergency medical assistance as Stockholm’s hospitals have been overwhelmed, infections and deaths have spiked dramatically upward, and the King of Sweden has made an unprecedented criticism of the government’s bungled strategy. Unprecedented, but hardly surprising: Sweden has suffered a death rate that is roughly ten times that of neighbouring Norway and nine times that of Finland. A searing government report concluded the state had failed to protect the vulnerable. Mats Persson, a former UK government adviser, said of his home country: “For a social model largely designed around the state levelling the odds and caring for the vulnerable, this will leave a very difficult moral legacy.” Sweden was praised to the skies by Covid-sceptics. In May, Sherelle Jacobs wrote in the Daily Telegraph that “the more time goes on, the more Sweden looks like a success story… Sweden is in a much stronger long-term position than lockdown countries.” Meanwhile, Christopher Snowdon of the Institute of Economic Affairs told us that Sweden had demonstrated “a more sensible way to balance risk, liberty and the economy”. [See also: How Sweden is being forced to abandon its failing Covid-19 strategy] To understand the magnitude of what’s gone wrong, it’s worth noting that Sweden started the pandemic with several huge advantages. First, it’s a far less urban nation than the UK,for example, and the virus spreads much more rapidly in dense, built-up areas. While the UK has 273 people per square kilometre, Sweden has just 25. Second, Sweden has the highest rate of people living alone in the world: 42.5 per cent of households are single people, compared to just 29.9 per cent in the UK. Obviously, it’s much easier for the virus to spread within the home, and places with large, multigenerational households suffer most. To form an idea of the consequences that would have followed if the UK had followed the Swedish model, you would need to compare Sweden’s outcomes to its similar neighbours. Given the country’s death rate is ten times higher, imagine the chaos we’d have seen if we had multiplied the UK death rate by a factor of ten. Nor has there been an economic upside for Sweden: in fact, they saw a bigger hit to their economy than their neighbours, as well as much worse health outcomes. The Swedish virologist Lena Einhorn concluded: “Sweden’s strategy has proven to be a dramatic failure.” This matters, not only because health and lives are in danger, but also because the Swedish experiment reveals the failures of the underlying theories of Covid-sceptics. Sweden’s controversial state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell predicted in the summer that because the country had a high rate of infection in the spring, it would have “a high level of immunity and the number of cases [in the winter] will probably be quite low”. We now know he was disastrously wrong. But he wasn’t alone; his theory was exactly the same as that still relied upon by the UK’s Covid-sceptics. Sunetra Gupta, a lead author of the “Great Barrington Declaration”, promised in May that, in the UK, “the epidemic has largely come and is on its way out in this country… due to the build-up of immunity”. One leading Covid-sceptic, Michael Yeadon, wrote that thanks to “prior immunity”, “the pandemic is effectively over.” It’s these same failed theories that still lead Covid-sceptics to argue it is safe to let the virus rip and attempt to shelter the old and vulnerable. One baffling feature of 2020 was that so much energy was wasted puffing up Sweden, while countries such as Australia, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and New Zealand revealed to us genuinely successful models based on hard suppression of the virus with decisive action: all suffered a fraction of the European average rate of coronavirus cases. There is, of course, no scope for triumphalism here. But when we look for models to learn from, it isn’t Swedish lessons we need. The better lesson is the simpler one, taught by our antipodean cousins: wallop the virus as hard as you can.
Sweden is done with the "no lockdown" era -- passes laws allowing the federal government to shut down businesses, shopping malls, leisure and entertainment venues and public transports. "Those who violate restrictions that limit access to public places can be sentenced to a monetary fine," Health Minister Lena Hallengren said in a press conference. Sweden imposes stricter COVID-19 regulations amid fear of new variant https://www.wionews.com/world/swede...9-regulations-amid-fear-of-new-variant-352966