Amusing that once again to post a chart that does not include recent deaths (due to data delay) to try to push your absurd claim the situation is improving. Let's look at the reported deaths today in Sweden.... Sweden registers 7,556 new Covid-19 cases today, 135 deaths https://www.malaymail.com/news/worl...6-new-covid-19-cases-today-135-deaths/1932580
The worldometers has a 1 DAY delay. That's it. It's deaths as REPORTED. Your numbers for the 16th (the article you posted) is REPORTED deaths and will be on the Worldometers chart tomorrow. We've gone over this many times. You need to think more and shriek less. So we'd see a spike far over the chart's trend which almost always means a catch up over multiple days. That would change the trend slightly. Slightly. Unless you can show me why suddenly there are 135 deaths in Sweden on Wednesday (maybe this is an especially deadly day in Sweden for some reason), then it has to be a catch up.
I have already posted the information several times about the lengthy delay for Swedish data in worldmeters and ourworldindata (their own explanations). Ourworldindata has a complete explanation (which was posted) and recently switched over to John Hopkins a data source to reduce the delay in Swedish data. It is absurd for you to push nonsense like -- "it is a 1 Day delay". Let's see if you even understand which days of the week Sweden reports data on. List them out to prove me wrong. For your clarification here is the article from ourworldindata once again... Why do COVID-19 deaths in Sweden always appear to decrease in the last 10 days? https://ourworldindata.org/covid-sweden-death-reporting There are two ways that COVID-19 deaths can be presented over time: by the date of death, or the date on which the death is reported. Neither of these methods is necessarily better than the other—but it can affect comparisons across countries and over time if these methods are not consistent. In the data that we present on Our World in Data, which comes directly from the European CDC, deaths in Sweden are shown by date of death, while deaths in other countries are shown by date of report. This matters because it takes a number of days until all deaths for a particular day are reported. In practice this means that Sweden might today only report 10 deaths for yesterday, but once reporting is complete the death count for that day might increase to 40. The death counts for the last 10 days in Sweden should therefore always be interpreted as an incomplete count of the deaths that occurred in this period. How confirmed deaths are presented for Sweden COVID-19 deaths are reported by the Swedish government by the date on which the death occurred. Since there is a lag between the time a person dies and the time the death is reported, the death counts for the most recent period are always incomplete. They are often most incomplete for the latest 2 to 5 days, but can be incomplete for 10 days or more. This undercount in recent days means that they often appear to be falling; but when this is later completed, data shows that more deaths were occurring during that period. This means that for the last 10 days of data, death counts in Sweden must only be interpreted as incomplete measures of mortality. As an example, this chart shows what confirmed deaths looked like for the period from October 20 to October 29, when the data was first published on October 30 (red series), and once many more death certificates had been added on November 12 (blue series). One day after October 29, it looked as if deaths had peaked on October 27 and then started to fall, but in reality that’s not what happened over this period. What actually happened is shown by the blue series: deaths increased steadily. This also means that each day, the Swedish government will add new deaths for multiple days in the past—mostly on recent days, but on average up to 10 days in the past, and sometimes even more, if deaths have been reported with a long delay. Our source for COVID-19 deaths, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, updates its figures for Sweden directly from the Swedish government’s data. This means that these daily changes affecting the historical data will be visible on our charts. Sweden is the only country for which the European CDC currently applies this method for the reporting of deaths. It is also important to note that this does not apply to confirmed cases, but only to confirmed deaths. For other countries, the European CDC does not build its dataset based on the date of death, but rather based on the date of report. More precisely, every morning the European CDC collects each country’s cumulative total number of deaths since the start of the pandemic, and subtracts the previous day’s total from it. This results in a daily figure that corresponds to the number of deaths reported in the last 24 hours—regardless of when those deaths actually happened. This means that if the death toll for a country was 20 for a given day, it will remain 20 indefinitely.1 There is nothing wrong with how Sweden or other countries are reporting deaths. But it is important to know these differences when studying the data from Sweden, and even more when comparing it with other countries. (As noted in the article OutWorldInData is switching over to use John Hopkins as their data source as of Dec 1st. This hopefully will reduce the lag in death reporting lag from Sweden.)
You're not listening. You rarely do. It doesn't matter how the data is reported, 135 is an outlier when looking at the Worldometers as reported, or the Official Swedish dashboard: Either way, 135 deaths reported on one day is very far outside the normal run rate - and hasn't been seen in the history of either chart (worldometers or the Swedish official site). Thus, the data has to represent multiple days for the 135 deaths. This would mean the general trend is still favorable (down) and not getting worse once you add those 135 deaths in - unless you assume they all happened on one, or two days or something like that. In which case I'd have to ask again, why all of a sudden on one day?? So I maintain, until you can prove otherwise, your article, your narrative and your info are all designed to be scare tactics and not at all indicative of reality.
Actually the 135 reported deaths is Wednesday's total for the previous 24 hour period. As noted in the article I posted earlier - the daily run rate for Sweden in December is expected to be above 100. On Tuesday the reported deaths for the three day period (Saturday - Monday) in Sweden was 153 with 20,931 new cases. Sweden registers 20,931 new COVID-19 cases, 153 deaths https://webcache.googleusercontent....cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-b-1-d Sweden, whose soft-touch pandemic response has placed it in the global spotlight, registered 20,931 new coronavirus cases since Friday, Health Agency statistics showed on Tuesday. The increase compared with 18,820 cases recorded in the corresponding period one week ago. Sweden registered 153 new deaths, taking the total to 7,667. The deaths registered on Tuesday could have occurred over the past several weeks. Sweden’s death rate per capita is several times higher than that of its Nordic neighbours, but lower than several European countries that opted for lockdowns.
Right. And as such, the trend would not change all that much. As I said. The original Reuters article is for fear mongering headlines.
gwb-trading is not posting about Sweden to scare anyone because those that are reading the info do not live in Sweden and most likely have no relatives living in Sweden. He's posting about Sweden the same reason why I post about Sweden... To show the Covidiots that they were wrong about natural herd immunity, they lied that natural herd immunity was achieved in both Sweden / United States and that we were correct that the only way you can achieve herd immunity is when > 60% of the population has been vaccinated. Fantasy that its about fear mongering... In reality, its about debunking the misinformation / disinformation by certain individuals at this forum that are the same folks doing the same about the U.S. Elections and now starting to create misinformation / disinformation about the vaccination that has started. Once again...nobody in this thread has any skin in Sweden. Thus, there's no fear mongering. It's just a thread in which a few individuals are calling out another few individuals for their misinformation / disinformation...continuing even after the Swedish Health Officials has stated that natural herd immunity has failed. P.S. President Trump lost the U.S. election...time for the Sweden Covididiots to grow up now because we know you don't live in Sweden. wrbtrader
That's a terrible conclusion not supported by the data at all. We are at a point now where both you and poster Jem are openly abusing the numbers and nobody can persuade you otherwise. What I would suggest to you is look back at weekly or monthly data 4-5 weeks later and see what actually occurred. Then take note on what you concluded on the week of. The Sweden approach has clearly failed. Denying it is no better then all this endless US election fraud nonsense. At some point the true position matters, but maybe there is no real motivation for either of you to seek that true position.
gwBe-lying is a fucking idiot. The lower recent deaths... is not due to data delay... as i told the fucking idiot...using the website's own explanation... which actually linked to later... The reason why Sweden's deaths always look to be going down (lately) is because that Sweden back fills the data to reconcile the death to the exact date of death.. So on the 3rd.. it may report 20 deaths. 10 will go to the 1st. 6 to the 2nd 4 to the 3rd. Then on the 4th... the same thing... deaths are reconciled backwards. That is not a delay... it the way the accounting is done. Whereas other countries do not reconcile the deaths to the previous days. They just do one data dump and that number stays that way. Sweden's approach is more accurate and will be more useful in the future. (IMO) because a few days will not matter... but knowing the exact days of death relative to other data points could turn out to be useful... Perhaps... temperature or weather or events... etc.
by the way moron... if you read your link... and put that information together with what I have been telling you for months... .you moron... "Sweden registered 153 new deaths, taking the total to 7,667. The deaths registered on Tuesday could have occurred over the past several weeks."