In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. piezoe

    piezoe

    As in the NIH. :D I still can't accept that you went to Law school. Well, maybe you went, but you couldn't have graduated. OK, well, maybe you went to Ole Miss. That could explain it.
     
    #1951     Dec 13, 2020
  2. jem

    jem

    1. Age, health, immune system health, perhaps exposure to previous viruses, population density, Vitamin D could all be previous factors.
    Low or mild flu seasons the last few years in your elderly population...
    When they first had an outbreak in their elderly before they responded...
    How open they were to travel from China and then other infected areas...

    Are all likely contributors to Covid outcomes.

    Which is why comparing country to country is not really useful for small differences, especially during their first round of Covid outbreak.

    Moron Standards which most countries and lefties follow.

    2. Infections and not distinguish high risk and low risk.

    By that standard... if your country has seen a new high in infections... your countries virus response this second time should not be lauded by those who think a govt job is to stop infections.



    Smart standards... the only logical ones.

    I believe the govts job is to prevent deaths.
    And since it is the high risk who due pretty close to 100 percent of the dying...
    The govt's job should be tailored to preventing infections and deaths in the high risk.

    By that standard... if your countries deaths are currently climbing or reaching new highs your Covid response was dangerous inept ... and it has failed.

    Explanation...

    We had one simple and obvious objective... protect the high risk from getting sick and dying.

    They should have been told to isolate.
    And we should have helped them isolate.

    If a govt did not preach that message early and often...
    Then they have done nothing truly useful for sure.
    And they may have been preaching madness which contributes to the death
    toll.

    For instance... the implicit message that masking protects people allowed some if not most high risk people to think it was safe to go out or allow family members to interact with them if they wore masks outside.









     
    #1952     Dec 13, 2020
  3. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    All you're doing here is posting misleading, useless propaganda that suggests your level of understanding on this topic is on some levels borderline mentally retarded. The data doesn't support your posts at all, but that B. of Arts degree has failed you in this regard time and time again I wouldn't expect any less from you.
     
    #1953     Dec 13, 2020
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  4. jem

    jem

    Is the NIH locking us down...
    or Benito Newsom
    imperial governor of California.

    Really let me give you a big fuck off on that one.
    I am in lockdown now.
    Important plans are being canceled again.
    He completely failed to manage this virus properly.
    His lock downs were inept.
    The virus is spiking
    Hospitals are getting more crowded... due to the season demand
    people from other countries and the high risk getting sick and dying...

    Millions of us are ticked at the deaths and harms caused in part
    by his failure to address the real issues regarding spread and sickness.

    Locking down without data supporting his choices.



     
    #1954     Dec 13, 2020
  5. piezoe

    piezoe

    In your case, I would prefer lock-up over "lockdown". As in "Lock him up!"
     
    #1955     Dec 13, 2020
  6. jem

    jem

    I am not aware that he is a crook.
    he is a hypocrit.
    he is probably managing this the way he was told to give him the best shot at presidential nominee for his party.

    he is just does not seem that bright.
    certainly not self aware of how going out to parties during the pandemic
    was a really bad move.
    I don't really have any animosity towards him as a person.

    I just despise people making decisions unsupported by data on
    how and where this virus is spreading.

    This general crap is insane.
    We should be targeting the spread and preventing the exact harm that leads
    to ICU admits and deaths.

     
    #1956     Dec 13, 2020
  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Given the complexities involved, I still consider Ontario's results a success. I've noticed Jem is again altering his story to try to keep up with the data and ignoring what the overall data is really telling him. It's all gotten very stupid. The man may just not possess the mental skills to truly understand any of this; certainly his background won't help him in this regard.

    Apparently the Y axis doesn't matter in their chart analysis. Simply by altering the scale of the Y axis you can mislead people on what a chart is saying. At least they haven't started with the double Y axis charts that some people create that are absolute garbage.
     
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    #1957     Dec 13, 2020
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  8. piezoe

    piezoe

    The Constitution is silent on that. I suppose then that the government of California is responsible for preventing your death. Well there you go. California is doing its best to prevent your death, just as you thought it should. I wouldn't complain if I were you. You got what you wanted from your government. Maybe you should send a Christmas card to Newsom thanking him.
     
    #1958     Dec 13, 2020
  9. jem

    jem

    The slope on a chart can be impacted by the axis true.

    But... only a moron like you can denies new highs are a problem.
    Which is why I keep telling you the virus is exploding in Canada.
    Each week you dispute that... and each week for the last few months..
    the chart keeps reach new highs.


    You also keep reaching new highs your deaths.
    Y axis is irrelevant but... a nice piece of sophistry.




     
    #1959     Dec 13, 2020
  10. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Quit your whining you and your community brought this upon yourself. You'd be better off living where Covid is "exploding" not that you'd have ever noticed. You just had to have your beach time, your soccer games, your indoor dining, your constant denial of the usefulness of masks, ... .

    You played your part now you have to deal with the consequences. Go ahead, move to Texas or Sweden if you want to experience even more Covid.
     
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    #1960     Dec 13, 2020